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Do they make an SB2.2 intake with bosses for fuel injectors or is this one of those things where I'd need sheet metal and a nice welder to pull off lol. I'm thinking about doing a solid roller SB2.2 377 this winter and I'd really like fuel injection, but I havent found anything for it really.
Yes plenty of people do now, like M&M, Higgins and a lot of custom fabricators but they need to know deck hieght port size etc etc. Sorry these dodo’s on this forum are so bad to answer this simple stuff. Hopefully you got it done by now
Great way to make friends. Dig up decades-old threads and rag on "everybody" because they didn't answer some obscure question from all those years ago that even though the answer might be well-known now, it wasn't then. Especially about something that VERY few people would come to THIS forum for; SB 2.2 isn't a "thirdgen" topic as such, people who are at that level are MUCH more likely to be on one of the hard-core engine-building forums, than on this one.
If the best you can do is to beat on the forum about not answering SB 2.2 questions 20 yrs ago, you're not much use here.
Well some people using this forum want to know specifics to make that system work in this car and there is no reason that someone can’t be more useful. I on the other hand contribute at least new content and images, ref etc as the industry changes and I experience it. I’m sure this member either gave up or found a way around without any help to the source.
Or perhaps, got help at one of the ENGINE-BUILDING forums, where people who want to talk about ENGINE BUILDING hang out. This forum is about 82-92 Camaro & Firebird, NOT specialized rarified PURE RACE CAR ENGINES.
We don't need you coming on here treating everybody on this forum as STUUUPID because somebody didn't get an answer 20 YEARS AGO about SB 2.2. We have words for people who do that sort of thing; the medical term would be "anus".
What you're doing isn't helping ANYONE. If we (users in general) needed your brilliance about the SB 2.2, there'd be more questions about it from more recently than 20 YEARS AGO. Lose the attitude and post USEFUL information about things people are asking about if you want, which is NOT the same as act a jerk about something from deep in the past and almost forgotten today, that no one here is concerned about.
Or perhaps, got help at one of the ENGINE-BUILDING forums, where people who want to talk about ENGINE BUILDING hang out. This forum is about 82-92 Camaro & Firebird, NOT specialized rarified PURE RACE CAR ENGINES.
We don't need you coming on here treating everybody on this forum as STUUUPID because somebody didn't get an answer 20 YEARS AGO about SB 2.2. We have words for people who do that sort of thing; the medical term would be "anus".
What you're doing isn't helping ANYONE. If we (users in general) needed your brilliance about the SB 2.2, there'd be more questions about it from more recently than 20 YEARS AGO. Lose the attitude and post USEFUL information about things people are asking about if you want, which is NOT the same as act a jerk about something from deep in the past and almost forgotten today, that no one here is concerned about.
People don't need an ANUS on a forum acting all superior about something NO ONE on that forum is interested in.
Which is why you have to go back 20 YEARS to find posts that allow you to puff up your ego.
Nobody needs a self-styled expert to call everyone else around them IDIOTS because 20 YEARS AGO someone who asked a one-off question didn't get an answer right away. And nobody around here seems interested in the SB 2.2, which while it was the "state of the art" 25 YEARS AGO, was quickly supplanted by the LS motor series. Which is why you have to dig up topics from 20 YEARS AGO to find fodder for boosting your ego.
If you have USEFUL information to offer, you're as welcome here as anyone else... or for that matter, even if you don't have useful info, but you want to talk about 82-92 Camaro & Firebird, you're equally as welcome. If OTOH you just want to come on here and act a jerk by yanking yourself off about something that's (a) only very peripherally related to 82-92 Camaro & Firebird, (b) generated very little interest even when it was somewhat current, (c) has drifted pretty much out of even those circles where it was once a hot topic, and (d) nobody is interested in now, that's not quite so welcome.
Take it to a forum where people are talking about SB 2.2, if there even is such a one anymore, and you're just REALLY determined to flood the world with all your superiority on the matter. This isn't it.
If bashing all the rest of us about not being SB 2.2 experts 20 YEARS AGO is all you're here for, then in my opinion, you can go crawl back under whatever you have been living under for the last 20 years. You're depriving some richly deserving bridge of one of its most important features.
Idiots? Look at your user name, you gave yourself away lol. Why you even chime in anyways.
Lastly too many of you guys don’t even have a license or a certificate to be a mechanic let alone years of thorough training and experience to even become a reliable source to share said information to a platform of people who take your word as gospel. “ People reading this just do your homework before committing to the practice of what these hack jobs type out like keyboard Commandos from any of these forums”
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Lastly too many of you guys don’t even have a license or a certificate to be a mechanic let alone years of thorough training and experience to even become a reliable source to share said information to a platform of people who take your word as gospel.
I don't want to be a mechanic. That's a hard life. Its an honest living though and that's respectable. I'm glad you like to do it and that you're good at it. But let's not pretend.... you can't do my job either.
Forums are where hobby people meet up. No apologies for that. Get your expectations aligned or stay frustrated.
BTW, you've been here 10 years and contributed very little to this forum. I don't care how smart you are, don't act like a gift to the needy when you don't deliver.
It appears Ive wounded some of your egos, just because you’ve been somewhere longer doesn’t mean you’ve been of more value. People get comfortable and don’t grow. That’s probably the biggest dilemma for most long term members here. I’ll keep posting new content here on this forum as I please. I don’t really care what you stagnant farts think. I’ll share tech, resources, experience as I feel required where there are shortcomings, so get TF over it!
I am a go to person when people can’t figure it out I’m a pro quality in everything I do and don’t care if you don’t wanna hear it or see it. Good luck on your mediocre endeavors. Cheers Mate
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No, you don't have our egos. We're (speaking strictly for myself) above that.
You have YOUR OWN EGO. That's obviously all you need.
Go back under your bridge. There's a chicken waiting there that need to be choked. Maybe a bishop that needs buffed. Butt coming on here and being an ANUS to all of us, while it may stroke YOUR ego, doesn't really advance The Cause.
Butt that's all OK. It's not too hard to figure out who the over-inflated ego BLOWHARD is here. I won't argue with the evidence. Contribute something USEFUL instead of a bunch of brag and abuse on posts from 20 YEARS AGO that nobody cares about, and we'll be glad of it. Otherwise, go spank that little monkey you've got hold of out there under your bridge. Answer posts FROM 2023 from all those nutswingers just clamoring for the LATEST SCOOP about SB 2.2, and call it good.
If you actually checked the other posts I’ve contributed to you’ll see that I’ve thought out of the box and show a quality approach that the average and advanced person could take on and actually fix cars, modify, improve whatever don’t matter with actual images of work completed. I don’t care, you guys choose to ignore a posting because you don’t know, well try tagging someone who does and give the person longing for an answer something to effing nibble on damn. You know what I did, I was merely checking through google for products and I seen the Thirdgen.org and wondered what the post was about and wouldn’t you know it, someone left high and dry. These things are a useless device and I’ll keep answering people message me or come to the shop etc whatever as for you F-O
seriously.
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If you actually checked the other posts I’ve contributed to you’ll see that I’ve thought out of the box and show a quality approach that the average and advanced person could take on and actually fix cars, modify, improve whatever don’t matter with actual images of work completed.
I have and I know that absolutely can be true. But it's not today. And it's not often.
You're a talented guy and you could do more to help people before you brag too much about it and mock others. Being present when help is needed is a good start...
I've had a call for help the last 2-1/2 years to create stand-alone tech threads in the LS Swap forum to support a (much needed) improved LS swap sticky. See this thread for list of things needing help with. Or if there are other related topics that you want to make a tech thread then that would be appreciated.
HELP people who have needs, as opposed to loafing the donkey about how great YOU are about the old late great SB 2.2 that NOBODY runs anymore because however great it was BACK IN THE DAY, times have moved on.
I haven't seen a SB 2.2 swap page on this forum. Maybe you can start one? Like the LTx/LSx sub-forum for engine swaps? There's SO MUCH interest, after all? Parts are SO plentiful, SO MANY of em are winning races in all those sportsman series at drag strips and ¼ mile tracks and whatnot, SO MANY are in 82-92 Camaro & Firebird that we see ALL THE TIME at the top of the charts, there's SO MANY questions about em on this forum? How have I missed all this?
Otherwise, you just need to go back under your bridge and polish the pole while waiting for unsuspecting travellers to clip-clop over your bridge so you can charge em toll.
Here we go again, jump on the band wagon LS boy, just tag a long and follow the crowd as you always do. Take your junkyard motors and follow the tides. If you’re wanting to make power then move to a 4.500 ditch that lame production LS for an R07 and get real power. But I not convinced you know much about that stuff or be even surprised. I’ll let the cat out the bag guys, if you want real power ditch any and all stock valve angle cylinder heads. There’s a lot of them out there that you will never see unless you download a catalog or speak to your local engine builder or machine shop.
There's a reason why no one uses the 2.2sb, they are expensive. Third gen guys are generally younger without a wad of cash so they use what they can afford.
Don't hurt your arm patting yourself on the back...
I’ve spent more money on heads that were junk in the past. I just bought some SB 2.2 heads recently that have all the port work and have been tested for 2500 bucks. That’s cheaper than a lot of heads on the market that are both good and bad. People reading this not people that are typing against pay close attention to the content. Back to the original question yes Higgins makes an EFI manifold, M&M, CFE and check out this article to see how Kieth Dorton did this one for land speed.
if it doesn’t work why would someone depend on it to make records.
I’m not digging in a junkyard for a clapped out *** LS motor either. Good luck on your endeavors.
Sign me up for some of that!!! I was dreaming of having a car that I can't see out the front, drives super shitty on the street, and needs rebuild in the parking lot at work before driving home! That is EXACTLY what my hobby is missing today!
I wonder how many of these companies belong to this guy, that he's on here shilling all this $$$$super expensive obsolete stuff$$$ for. They all must have loaded up real heavy on all this back when this type of motor was "new", and now they realize they're just kinda STUCK with it because you can make more power eeeeezyer and cheeeeeper, and with VASTLY wider choices, some other way, so today, that motor is now largely forgotten.
Glad he's here now to tell this guy from 20 YEARS AGO all about how he just got these "used" heads. I'm positive he's been checking this forum every day since he asked about that back in 2003, just waiting for something like this to come along.
There has been some talk about sb2.2 stuff in forums over the years but i have only seen a couple actually installed in a car. i actually wanted to do one at one point using old cup parts. i still have a crank, but i learned real quick that the nascar stuff was by no means standardized. i bought a set of pistons that were setup for a .59x" wrist pin, which i didnt even know existed. i assume they were out of a qualifying engine when they still did that. i also had a set of carillo rods that had something funky about them as well. The heads and intakes can be setup for restrictor plate racing or some other odd racing situation which can vastly skew what they are good for. i gave up on that project as i didnt know enough to know what to look for, and i didnt have a good enough source to help me get it. (the good stuff goes to the buddies, the wierd stuff goes on ebay)
As for the topic, if lucky you could snag an ex cup intake now that they have been sitting on a shelf for 20 years and have injector bosses welded in. probably be cheaper than some sort of custom brand new unit.
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