hottiehustles

Hi guys,
Hottie here with another problem. Okay this a-hole thought he was being a nice guy by helping my overheating problem. But the job got tough and he bailed, kinda like my boyfriends. Really though he started to take out my thermostat and the bolts and nuts are welded together from the constant driving the car hot. If i keep forcing it i going to brake the bolt. so i lube it and do a tiny turn lube it wait an hour then do it again. Now i don't have all month to do this job. I've broke two wrenches now so what can i do to make this easier. Also the air filter cover things that goes to the intake i think, i undo that the hose going to the radiator undo that and the little hose below it undo that. Now to get the thermostat out what else needs to get out of my way. He also did something to my head gasket(sp) thing it's broke. Advice guys pretty please

hottiehustles

Codename 47 to you yes my iroc is yellow. good to know you are not color blind that would suck.

KintaroOe

i was wondering if you have carb, tbi, or tpi. if you have carb or tbi, all you should have to remove is the air cleaner, and then from there you would have access to the bolts to take off. If you feel like, use some PB blaster on the bolts and let it soak for a few hours and then come back to take bolts out. It really shouldnt be to difficult to remove even if the engine has overheating. As long as some idiot didnt put loctite on the bolts, you should be good to go. If you have a tpi, you will have to talk to one of the other board members, seeing as how at this moment i have no clue what needs to be removed.

hottiehustles

hi hottie here
just a quick fyi about me. I know cars like i know football. I have no idea who or what names are to either one. tpi i have no idea.
I'm a 28 year old chick that is trying to just do it herself cause everyone else seems to screw it up. It's an 86 iroc camaro z28 it has a 305 engine and it is fuel injected. No carb I do know some stuff i watch and ask alot of questions. I don't like to not know how to do something but i also don't like or want to break a nail what is pb peanut butter?

iceman02

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1986 Iroc should be TPI fuel injection (tuned port injection). It should say tuned port injection on the throttle body (on the forward part of the intake). TPI has the 4 runners on each side (4 curved tubes going down to the intake on each side).
PB Blaster is a brand of penetrating oil, like WD40, but better.

iceman02

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pic of TPI

Stekman

A service manual (Hayne's, Chilton's, etc.) may be your best friend. I would highly suggest looking into such, not to derive from the capabilities of TGO, though. Any of the application-specific service manuals availabl will have pictures and decent step-by-steps on basic DIY'er stuff (thermostat swaps, for example ). Hayne's is really good with pictures (especially on brake work).

Once you get down to the thermostat housing (the egg-looking thing with a snout), there are just 2 bolts that hold that down. You may have to put some force on them, but your engine cannot get hot enough to weld the bolts to the intake. Stuck and tough to remove, yes, welded, no. For someone who cannot produce torque, a breaker bar may be your best bet. Use leverage. Some piping around a ratchet or a breaker bar makes short work of most hardware when an impact wrench isn't present. Get a 4' chunk of tubing and have at it.

Once you get it off, have some rags handy as a little bit of coolant will spill out. Make a mental image of which way the thermostat goes (yes, there is an upside down and bad things happen on the upside down factor). Remove, replace, and bolt it back up.

Elaborate, if you will, on this head gasket thing, though.

hottiehustles

the seal i guess he said before he ran out the door. now you are saying i can hammer at it and get the bolt off without busting the bolt? what if i do break it. Another thing he said as i yelled at him what was taking so long he said that the bolt is rethreading itself. Do i have to have a thermostat in it is it really that big of a deal? thanks guys

hottiehustles

hey i'm out there right now working on it and i'm telling you that bolt is on there good and tight. I was wondering can i take out my ac motor since it serves no purpose at all cause i don't have the money to replace it and either way i'll have to take it out eventually and put in a new one. its not all that but extra weight on the car yes/no please me know asap before i start hacking at it. I can't get a good wacking on the bolt unless it's out of my way
thank again
hottie

84L69TA

Well, I happen to live in the Phoenix/Glendale area. If you would like some help, PM me. I have worked for GM for 6 years and am GM and ASE certified.

ME Leigh

Heat and lube. Try a torch and quenching it with wd-40.

Dialed_In

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post your pic

rustybluebird

KintaroOe

Dialed_In

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Nice self portrait.

net_coma

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I love that picture!
I have never been able to break a bolt on the thermostat housing. Get a good boxend wrench or a good 5 point socket and a hammer. Hold the wrench tight and tap with the hammer. It should start to move. Head gasket? How could he damage that and if he did I suggest a large bore lead projectile. Heater fan motoer....leave it in place and I think it is less than 25 bucks. If you remove the thermostat get a large washer with a 3/4 hole and put it where the thermostat goes. You need the flow restriction for even cooling.

net_coma

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AC motor or compressor? Sounds like the compressor...use a 15mm wrench and move it out of the way and then put back in place when you are done. Better to leave it there instead of removing and leaving the freon lines open.

Dialed_In

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If you're not going to use a thermostat, get a restrictor kit. They're like $10 and are made for this, not washers

net_coma

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There is a large washer that works fine and the antifreeze does not allow corrosion...buck or less. Just cut the temperature element out of the bad thermostat file it clean and put it back in place.......best tho is the cpl bucks for a new part. Sorry if my shade tree gave you a litte gas but the idea came from Circle Track Magazine many years back and it works.

Why did you not offer your advice earlier instead of asking for a picture?

Dialed_In

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Your shade tree mechanics didn't give me gas. I was just offering up the "proper" substitute for your method. Chill out. The restrictor plates come with different sized openings so you can somewhat control how the temps behave.

Why do you want to get rid of the thermostat all togehter? For a driver it's generally not such a good idea. It'll take longer to warm up, it'll get hotter, and it'll take longer to cool.

Net_Coma: And the picture thing was a joke. You people on this forum take everything so serious.

net_coma

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I use thermostats, I thought the question was asked about leaving it out, not a good idea. When I did try a restrictor it was because I had an 82 Z28 that would not cool after new larger radiator, new fan clutch, new water pump and anything else I could think of to get it to cool in Texas heat.

Red Devil

Before this becomes another leg-hump thread, go buy a manual, as I told you before. If you really need the help/ want to do the work you'll get more from that than this thread.

net_coma

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wow.....now that is a kindly stated chunk of advice and from a devil of a leg hump.

88 350 tpi formula

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I had a couple tpi/water neck bolts that where stuck good. for some reason it was the stud one.


any way just get the manual like was stated. rock the bolt back and forth using tons of pb blaster

hottiehustles

boys boys are we not a bit "my car is bigger then your car" All what you write is very useful even if i don't know 1/2 the terms of cars parts and stuff mean. But I try to pass it on to whomever might be helpling me with my car. Thanks for the personnal hand by coming over I might be a blonde in distress but not all blondes are stupid. Now back to my picture I look so cute I might need to shave up a bit and lose a few pounds the internet just doesn't bring out my natural beauty. I worked at that damn bolt for what seems an hour then my little girl decided she needed me more so I haven't touched the car since. I'm a prisoner. Then to top it off as I'm hitting the wrench i missed and hit something that i thought didn't need to be moved. It looked like a hose but in snapped of like a pen. oops I can't even tell you what the thing is. When i find my camera I'll take a pic. So thats a no on leaving the thermostat out and a no on taking the compressor for ac out.RIGHT? Well i can't even get someone to gets there asses here to help me with the car let alone find someone to take me to get an owners manual. Is there any online manuals? and i can't even get to those stupid bolts i gotta dismantel the whole throddle body thing to get to it. YIKS well keep me posted I'll let you know the results I'm sure i'll be back asking questions as i do it. this really sucks.

hottiehustles

well men hottie here I've gotten the throddle body off and got a good angle on the bolt and snap goes the bolt **** I thought so i went ahead and started on the second bolt and guess what snap. yes thats right both. now what. by the way my water neck is rusted how much for a new one thanks guys asap please i'm out there now.

david roush

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You need a drill bit and a set of "easy outs" now.This is just an example of what you need.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/pro...635784&ccitem=

Difflock

I know the US is a huge country, but I'm surprised no one lives close enough to you to give you some help...

You drill a hole in the top of the bolt big enough to accept the "easy-out" bit. These things screw in anti-clockwise. The idea is that it unscrews the remains of the bolt as you are screwing the bit in.

IF the bolts won't come out via the Easy-outs then you'll probably have to get some Heli-coil kits and totally drill the bolt remains out. Heli coils are like a spring which fits in the hole to provide a new screw thread for a new bolt.

Cheers,
Mark.

firebirdjosh

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Does she have a power drill? Does she trust herself drilling into her engine block considering she can't change a thermostat by herself? Find a good mechanic and have him fix it, sounds like you're doing more damage than good. Also, replacement thermostat housings you can get from autozone. They sell chrome ones that supposedly leak from what the members say on this site, but I haven't had issues yet.