Chevyman84

My Camaro wont even turn over at alll........ the last thing i did was drive it to a friends house who lives outta town about an hour a way........ my car waas runiing fine...... its a brand new 350 engine with only about 80 miles on it......i came home turned my car offf.... came back about to hours later to leave and now it wont even turn over..... its weird bcause it was just working fine........im going to swith my battery with another one to see if thats the problem but i dont think so cause my headlights and music come on stillll.......


can someone please help me........

chevymec

iTrader: (5)

check the connection at the starter. If you just got the motor in is possible the cable is loose at the starter soleniod. Take a test light and check for power at the starter. Should have power all the time at the big terminal and only have power at the small terminal when the key is turned to run.

Chevyman84

Alright im go check that thanks........ima get back to u in a minute

chevymec

iTrader: (5)

Aight!!

manchesterbeast

its been more than a minute. where is he?
heh
maybe he got it runnin again and went out cruising!

Chevyman84

Naw iTs Niether i havnt checked for power yet but i checked the wire connections and they were all tite at the middle screw were th 3 wires meet but the other wire that was by it self was really loose but i tightend it but still wont turn over and im pretty sure its getting power because of the fact i was making a lot of sparks when my wrench would touch the other wires......................

sqzbox

Your supposed to disconnect the battery first! Man, I knew that was going to happen! Be sure to check all your grounds like engine to firewall. Are you getting a click sound or anything? or just nothing.

Chevyman84

Yeah i disconnected th battery after the first couple of sparks.........
But Yeah im not getting any kinda of sound at all im not even getting the clicking noise from my carburator any more........ My Radio plays and my headlights come on........ when i go to turn it over all my gauges jump and my radio turns off......

i dont evn no.............

Chevyman84

No One has anymore ideas

iroczracer07

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What year is the car and has the V.A.T.S. be disarmed?

iroczracer07

iTrader: (2)

If you have the V.A.T.S. and it hasn't been disabled, the chip in the key has probably worn down, hence the cars refusal to start. If you have a spare, get it ang give it a turn. If the car starts, get another key cut.

Chevyman84

Its an 84 and i dont have V.A.T.s


also i checked for power with the test light and i found that the 3 wires that meet at the center bolt on the starter all have power...... But the one on the right by itself has no power i tried with the egnition on and off and theres no power..........................

Stekman

So the purple wire has no power? What transmission?

Chevyman84

its not purple but yeah that wire has no power......

Chevyman84

and its the stock transmission not reall y sure which one

89RJcamaroRS

try neutral saftey switch if an auto or clutch safety if manual

Chevyman84

Naw i cant do that.................... Its An automatic.......
you guys think its possible i burnt up the starter or somthing by having that one wire not tite............??????????????

Chevyman84

or could it possible be a blown fuse beacause my rear hatch wont pop open anymore either?????????????????????????

True

As 89RJcamaroRS said, try your neutral safety switch.

Also, the hatch is weird... on my car, it won't open with the switch with my cluster out (solving a speedo issue).

iroczracer07

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Chevyman84

i have an automatic transmission..............were's the neutral safty switch at..........

89RsPower!

on the shifter.. try starting it in neutral for the hell of it..

Chevyman84

In the car or on the bottom

Chevyman84

a Can someone tell me were the neutral safty switch is............. someone told me its underneath my console right below my shifter????????????????

89_ho_rs

you were told correct. it is on the shifter in the car. try to start it in neutrul instead of park.

Chevyman84

i tried it in neutral and there was no luck................. when i get to the switch how am i gonna no its good or bad??????????????

zimmchile7

The same thing happened to me and it was the fusable liks to the starter. They are part of the starter wires that run in a round channel just before they attach to the starter. The channel is steel (genius GM) and if the wires are exposed and touch it they can blow the fusable links. The wires make a 90 degree bend out of the channel and then attach to the starter.

racereno

When you code check, what do you get?

Chevyman84

i aint been able to do a code check............


wat im gonna do is just follow those wires untill i find something and go from there..............
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a does anyone have any pictures i could see

ericgzhc4t

You might wan't to just go ahead and install a push button start switch.
Oh and another thing, when your car is cold it turns on fine right, but after it get to normal temp, you turn it off and it won't turn on again right it just drag's?
All i did is called Jegs and ordered a CVR high torque mini starter, that solved all my problems. I had installed some Hedman headers on my 86 Transam and they're really close to where the factory starter was at, so I bought a heat sheild and it helped a little but the summer heat just wouldn't help(the factory starter was brand new by the way) so I spent about $175 on a mini starter and that's it and a push button starter where the cigarette lighter goes and 4 years later no problems whatsoever,
As far as your nuetral safety switch , look under your center counsel, by your shifter, your switch should be there.

Thanks,
Eric....

D's89IROCZ

I am suprised nobody suggested to tap the starter when someone is holding the key ahead

Chevyman84

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thats wat im talkin a bout that will rule out the starter and solenoid if it works right..............

iroczracer07

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Chevyman84

Alrite everybody i tapped it and it turned over and started.................... so now what????????

i followed the purple wire for pretty much as far as i could and there is no sign of a fusible link on the wire so im not sure what to do next????????????????????

Toxinz

So now you get a new starter... simple. I cant belive no one told you to put 12 volts on the signal side of the starter and see if it would turn over or not. Then tap on it. At anyrate when ever you think that it could be a possible starter your suppose to make sure you have 12volts on one side and 12volts switched on the other.
I would get a starter, but the next thing you could do is a voltage drop test on the positive and negitive cable by using a dvom. One lead on the posive side of the starter and the other lead on the positive side of the battery crank it and see if it goes over .5 volt if it does you need new cables or you have a bad connection. Same test on the negitive. If both are under then you know its only the starter. 9 outta 10 times its a bad starter.

Chevyman84

well if the starter turned it over and started it.... then why would i need a new starter............????????????????

ChevyGuy87

When you tapped on it, you freed up the stuck solenoid (or starter motor, I can' remember which). It won't stay freed up forever.

Chevyman84

So you think that wa the problem because the solenoid was stuck.............. because after i started it up up by tapping on it............. i tried to start it a few minutes after the normal way by turning the key and it wouldnt so something is still wrong right?????????????????

wulff

I have seen this happen before... sometimes the solenoid will stick and when it's free it may never do it again. If you continue to have to 'rap the starter' I would get another one.

Chevyman84

well i have just been jumping it from the were the purple wire comes out of my fire wall and so to me it seems as if i was jumping it and its working i would think that the problem would either be my ignition switch or my neutral safety switch.....................

ling427ttvette

iTrader: (1)

It's your starter.

Get a new one, put it in, and if that doesn't help.. then atleast you have a new starter.

Chevyman84

well i just dont get it because i disconnected the wiring harness from the neutral safety switch and i have been running a wire with power to the purple wire that is in the harness and my car starts right up every time .................... so i would think that it is my neutral safety switch and no my starter or solenoid.................?????????????

Chevyman84

well the worries are over.............. i fixed the problem it was my neutral safty switch that went bad............. i put a new one in and now everything is workin perfect............. thanks everyone for the help it was much appreciated............

andy89camaro

deos any one no how to hot wire a 89 camaro rs. my ignition went out and i have to hot wire it and don't no how or what color wires to touch together. can't some one please help me out thanx.
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deos any one no how to hot wire a 89 camaro rs. my ignition went out and i have to hot wire it and don't no how or what color wires to touch together. can't some one please help me out thanx. my email is andy79z282002@yahoo.com let me no on there or on hear l8tr on

andy89camaro

do u no how to hot wire a 89rs camaro please let me no get at me at andy79z282002@yahoo.com

andy89camaro

deos any one no how to over come the revlimiter so i can go faster then 115

Toehead

You might want to make your own threads........

casson4

i know this forums old but im having the same problems and when i go to put the key in my berlinetta the gauges sometimes dont even come on anymore

vetteoz

iTrader: (13)

Would get more attention if you start a new thread.
Or do a search ; a multitude of similar problems solved over the years


checked the battery ? how old ? fully charged ? etc ........

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...ont-start.html