Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!

Smoke coming out of my tailpipes when I accelerate hard.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-17-2002, 07:03 AM
  #1  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Smoke coming out of my tailpipes when I accelerate hard.

I have clouds of white smoke coming from my tailpipes when I get on the throttle hard.
My engine temp is at 160*.
I have an oil leak from the timing chain cover.
Oil PSI stays around 28-32psi but goes down to about 20 or so when I am low on oil.
Haven't checked the coolant level since the car stays pretty cool, but I'll check it today.

What could be the problems?
I put on used 87 TPI heads, looked pretty good, but didn't know the exact condition they were in, I just slapped them on the car.
I can't really tell if the smoke is totally white, but I think there is a blue tint to it.

Also, the exhaust smells like gas and people have told me it is running very rich.

Here is a video of the car. Motor was still a little cold but in the middle of the video when I am driving away you can see the smoke coming out of the tail pipes when I step on the gas.
http://www.donpagevideo.com/video/ZepherWS6.mpg

Thanks Guys.
Old 02-17-2002, 07:54 AM
  #2  
86Z
TGO Supporter

iTrader: (4)
 
86Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: CT
Posts: 1,992
Likes: 0
Received 10 Likes on 9 Posts
Car: 1986 Camaro SC
Engine: 305 TPI Procharged D1SC
Transmission: Tremec TKO-600
Axle/Gears: Moser 12 Bolt 3.73 posi
zepher, do you smell oil burning? if so it could be your valve seals/guides, does it smoke blue when you start it after sitting? the black smoke is from running really rich but that can cause it to wash the oil away from the cylinder walls and burn it, my suggestion would be figure out why it's running rich and fix it, then see if it smokes on hard throttle.
Old 02-17-2002, 08:49 AM
  #3  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
I'll have a new ECM on the way this week, one I have has a bad serial data port so I can't scan the ECM to see what it's doing.
Car is either in Limp Home mode or Open Loop.
Car runs great, besides the poor mpg and smoke from the pipes.

Engine bay smells like burning oil due to the fact that the oil is burning off of the headers and exhaust, but the exhaust just smells like gas.
Old 02-17-2002, 09:32 AM
  #4  
Hg
Supreme Member
 
Hg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
Posts: 1,712
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '87 Z
Engine: 355 in the works
Transmission: 700R4
So these are stock heads from an '87? I'd go with what 86Z said and try and fix the running rich and oil leak first, then work from there. If it is the heads, you could get a set of those World S/R Torquer 305 heads Good luck mi amigo.
Old 02-17-2002, 09:45 AM
  #5  
Senior Member

 
wm_sorg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Formula Firebird
Engine: 2001 LS1 Modded
Transmission: 2001 4L60E Yank SS3600 TC
Gennerally when a car burns oil under a load it's the rings. If you are smelling unburnt fuel then you are running too rich. How many miles on the engine? Any mods?
Old 02-17-2002, 10:18 AM
  #6  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (8)
 
Mkos1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Macedonia ,OH
Posts: 3,968
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Car: Formula
Engine: 6.0 LSX
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt 3:27
I say when you get on it hard you have poor intake gasket sealing and it going up through there.
Old 02-17-2002, 03:25 PM
  #7  
Supreme Member

 
rezinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: California
Posts: 3,813
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
How did you torque down the intake?
Old 02-17-2002, 06:24 PM
  #8  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
Engine has 150K miles on it.

I torqued the bolts down pretty tight and used RTV on the front and rear of the intake manifold.

I have a 350 block in my garage that I am probably going to build up and slap into my T/A, nothing too extreme.
I am going to save up money and build up a sbc 400.
Old 02-17-2002, 06:30 PM
  #9  
Supreme Member

 
rezinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: California
Posts: 3,813
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Pretty tight as in 45 ft/lbs in correct sequence? Is the 350 a roller block? Im in the market for one of them, as my 305 with similar mileage has given me some smoke at times(not under accelleration). Not sure of the problem yet.
Old 02-17-2002, 06:52 PM
  #10  
Senior Member

 
wm_sorg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Formula Firebird
Engine: 2001 LS1 Modded
Transmission: 2001 4L60E Yank SS3600 TC
I took a look at that video. It lookes like your car is running too rich. The smoke appears to be grey and black. Try some leaner jets.
Old 02-17-2002, 09:28 PM
  #11  
Member
 
GOLD85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah put some smaller jets in your fuel injection rail, that will solve the problem, lol. like previosly said fix the oil leak first im not sure if your car has a cold start injector, but it or the other injectors could be leakin. i like the idea of u puttin a 400 in.
Old 02-17-2002, 09:45 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
wm_sorg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Annandale, VA
Posts: 954
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: 1991 Formula Firebird
Engine: 2001 LS1 Modded
Transmission: 2001 4L60E Yank SS3600 TC
OOPS! I thought the car was carbed. I must have mixed it up with another. Nevertheless, if it has an AFPR the pressure could be turned down to help lean it up. Otherwise it might need reprogramming to compensate for the cam.

BILL
Old 02-17-2002, 09:56 PM
  #13  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
I still have the cold Start Injector in the rail even though it isn't being used. could that be causing the rich condition?
I totally forgot about it.

I did the correct torque in the correct sequence.

My 350 is a non-roller block, 72 vintage.
Old 02-17-2002, 10:04 PM
  #14  
Member
 
GOLD85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Winnipeg,Manitoba,Canada
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
reconect the wireing harness to the cold start injector it may make a dif. never over look the obvious and never over diagnos, u miss things that way, but we'ev all done it
Old 02-17-2002, 10:09 PM
  #15  
Supreme Member

Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
Zepher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Norfolk, VA. USA
Posts: 7,964
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Car: 86 Trans Am, 88 Formula
Engine: 95LT4, 305TPI
Transmission: T56, T5
I am running a 91 Speed Density setup now, there is no connector for the Cold Start Injector on the harness anymore.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Red iroc-z 305
Tech / General Engine
8
09-30-2015 05:22 PM
BewleyBizzIROC
Tech / General Engine
19
09-07-2015 08:05 PM
Fronzizzle
Electronics
3
08-17-2015 02:52 PM
86White_T/A305
LTX and LSX
0
08-17-2015 12:16 AM
squiggy2
TPI
4
08-09-2015 09:30 PM



Quick Reply: Smoke coming out of my tailpipes when I accelerate hard.



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 AM.