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Old 05-11-2015, 11:09 PM
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700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

okay ive been playing with my trans ($1600) some more and the car still shifts at 3500-4000rpm for the 1-2 2-3 shifts not crisp shifts either.. the trans has a 2400 stall acts like a stock stall and shift kit that you cant feel it has a lock up TQ converter but scince I converted my car from TPI to carb I don't have the computer in the car or the trans pluged in I swear before the motor swap the car would run up to 5500 or so then shift that was 3years ago so cant remember for sure ive played with the kick down doesn't seem to effect it and all ive seen about the governor kits is that it effects the 1-2 shift I ordered a Governor kit just to see if that helps other wise the trans is gonna come out.. im truly lost at this point
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

1st... It's not a kickdown
2nd... Do not play with it.

The 700r4 uses a TV (throttle valve) cable. It controls line pressure in the transmission. The TV cable most be set right or you can burn your trans up.

It is nothing like the "kickdown" or detent cable on a th-350 trans. That only controls the detent valve to force a 3 to 2 downshift

Do you have the correct aftermarket TV cable adapter and bracket for the carb you are using? This is important.

The governor controls 1-2 and 2-3 WOT shifts.
I have the B&M gov kit in my th-400 and set it up for 6400 rpm WOT shifts. Both 1-2 shift and 2-3 shift happens at 6400
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

I have a aftermarket bracket but not TV cable , is that the kickdown cable
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

I looked it up and see the adapter .. I have it already adjusted like in the videos how does the adapter change anything??
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

Im going to order the adapter today.. so my stock TV cable is alright to use or do I need a aftermarket?
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

Stock TV cable is fine to use. You just need the adapter and bracket to fit it to a carb and get the geometry right.

There is no "kickdown" cable on a 700r4. The TV cable controls line pressure which controls functions of all up and down shifts with the 700r4 trans
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

Would that also effect why the car doesnt stall up ?
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

No. If it really is a 2400 stall, and your tachometer isn't way off, then it's either lack of input torque from the engine, or lack of traction, or too much axle ratio. For any given converter, it will stall higher with a 2.73:1 axle than with a 4.10:1 axle.
Now, if your tires are spinning before you get to 2400, that doesn't mean the converter isn't working, it means it is working well.
Line pressure, controlled by the TV, can affect shift points, with any given governor.
If you drove WOT with not enough lone pressure, then you could have hurt your expensive transmission.
Did you transfer your old governor?
Here again, for any given governor, it will upshift at a lower RPM with 4.10:1 gears than with 2.73:1 gears.
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

Originally Posted by Night rider327
Stock TV cable is fine to use. You just need the adapter and bracket to fit it to a carb and get the geometry right.

There is no "kickdown" cable on a 700r4. The TV cable controls line pressure which controls functions of all up and down shifts with the 700r4 trans
Right on Night. The geometry has to be correct for what carb you have. they sell kits. make sure you have the right one or you can hurt your tran or shift points will be too early or late. Tons of info on the web. monster has some videos on youtube as well as many other company's. good luck man! (edit) also, if you have a locking style you need the computer to send a single to the converter to tell it to lock. pretty sure thats all the comp does is send a single. does not control shift points. And your cruze speed has to be more than your stall or you will burn your fluid/tran w/o lock.

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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

Car still doesnt shift right...
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Re: 700r4 shift point issues 1-2 2-3 HELP!!

I have it set for wot the CV cable is pretty tight
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