BackInBlackGP

Just curious to see who has performed the most modifications to your tiny little 2.8...

I'm leaving mine as stock as possible, mainly to keep it running as long as possible, but I also like to keep things original as possible in this car as well.

Just want to see who has thrown stock out the window...

V8 Slayer

Probably Doward with his Turbo 5 speed 2.8

Project: 85 2.8 bird

the member formaly known as RTFC most likely. that silly silly little autocross freak

kretos

yeah whens dean gonna get his new username up and running, i got a few questions i'd like to ask him

DeanE

Car is most modified (suspension brakes and drivetrain), but probably not my current 2.8 motor assembly.

I have no bottom end work done to it. Mainly bolt-ons

Motor modifications from stock on the current 2.8 in the car:
*Gutted airboxes and high flow filters.
*Descreened MAF
*62mm billet alum TB
*polished runners -most likely already gunked up again with carbon from the EGR
*Holley adj fuel pressure reg. /running 55psi
*"TB Bypass" for ease of working on the motor
*1.52 roller tip rockers
*175* running temp via a competely built cooling system (BeCool alum rad and fans, 180* therm with drilled rim for flow to relieve air pockets and slightly lower running temp)
*140 Powermaster Alt.
*Underdrive crank pulley
* Taylor Wires and firesleeves
*Hypertech 53,000V Coil heat sheilded underneath (Distributor drilled also under the module for cooling of the AC Delco Ignition Module)
* PF&E stainless steel headers also ceramic coated for heat retention out of the engine bay and increase flow to the rear of the vehicle.
*PF&E y-pipe/ also stainless steel and ceramic coated to retain heat
*Catalytic convertor flanged and removed for running a Dynomax bullet free flow resonator in its place so I can run high fuel pressure (rich) and leaded race fuel when running on a track
*2 1/2" catback into a Flowmaster 80 with only 1.75" dual exits to reduce drone and give a great high rpm sound.


ps- I'm not an autoX freak I have only ran this car twice in two and a half year apart from each time. And, I will probably never again bother until I put a more radical motor into it someday (this will definately happen, just not anytime soon- low on the priority list BECAUSE this is the wifes car that I occationally drive. I have not driven it in over two weeks)

Not "IF" but definately "WHEN" I do build the 3.4 I have and put it into the car it will be built from the crank up with 6" rods, etc. The entire bottomend with custom pistons and all, and hopefully I can keep the compression down on the NA build if I can acquire one of this mysterious Paxton "smog legal" supercharger kits they made back in 1988- then just crank up the pullies and the boost and add race fuel for any competition use, yet keep it on pumpgas for normal daily use.

Doward

Depends - modified motor? I'd actually give the nod, myself, to Alan's (AM91_CamaroRS) engine. MASSIVELY modified. Other than the turbo, I don't have much fanciness under my hood

Modified V6 Fbody? Yeah, probably Dean, with his COMPLETELY overwhelmingly modified suspension/brake system

yupitsdadsbird

well mine is still kinda wimpy but better then nothing

bigger carb
carb spacer
8.8 wires
open air cleaner
glasspack
no smog
no a/c
no heat.
open powerbulge hood
215/60/15, 275/60/15
2inch lower front



and a sun roof........

KED85

Does swapping out dead 2.8s for 3.4 long blocks, qualify?

yupitsdadsbird

No cause then it's not a 2.8, now on the other hand if you took the 3.1 crank and put it in your 2.8 that would be a different story.

Project: 85 2.8 bird

nope, or the list would've been slightly longer & included Red Raif.

redraif

Well if you remember most of what is not the 3.4 currently used to be on the 2.8... less the exhaust, headers, & tranny!

So I can say I used to be a front runner for the most modified

So why can't you count 3.4s? We all have the same block, just internally a bit diff... heck if you are only talking 2.8s...

Dowards is a 3.1!...
AM91_CamaroRS is a 3.1 too!

So if you can't count 3.4s, you can't count 3.1s! :P LOL

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Engine swap: 1995 Camaro 3.4L V-6
SunCoast Ram Air Box
K & N Air Filter
MAF sensor screen removed
Throttle Body coolant bypass
EGR System eliminated
19lb Ford fuel injectors
Holley Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
MSD Dual Connector Coil
Accel distributor cap and rotor button painted red with brass contacts
Taylor Spiro Pro 8mm Wires
AC DELCO Rapid-fire plugs
Distributor blueprinted
Gasket match ported & polished: Plenum, Runners, Lower intake, & heads.
Reed Cam: TM276/282H12A2 (223/228 w/ 471/480 lift on 112 int C/L is 108)
Comp Cams timing chain set, lifters, & springs
Sneaky Pete NOS system
ASP Underdrive crank pulley
PF&E 304 stainless headers
Custom 2.5 to 3in y-pipe
Flowtech 3 in. cutout
Magnaflow 3in. high flow catalytic converter
3in Flowmaster American Thunder mandrel bent catback system
Custom dual 2.5 in outlet pipes w/ 4 square tips
Chrome Spectre breather filters
160 degree thermostat w/ Hypertech fan switch
Aluminum 4th Gen Driveshaft
1994 4th Gen Torque Arm
TransGo shift kit
Neal Racing Transmissions 2800 stall converter
TCI transmission cooler w/ Earl’s –6 AN fittings and stainless braided lines
Neal Racing Transmissions Performance 700r4 rebuild with all the goodies

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PERFORMANCE HANDLING:
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17-in Chrome Front Wheel Drive 4 lug (Datsun) Niche Serpents
Spacer/Adapter to fit FWD 4 lug rim on RWD 5 lug car
BF Goodrich Red Scorchers (245/45 R17)
Eibach Pro-Kit
KYB GR-2 Shocks & Struts (painted red)
Slotted & Drilled frt. Rotors (painted VHT red metal tint)
1984 Trans Am 3.73 disc brake rear end (painted red) w/ chrome diff. cover
Earl’s Hyperfirm stainless braided brake hoses
Brake Calipers (painted red)
1986 Z28 Steering Box (candy apple red)
Iroc Z28 Wonder bar
34MM front and 24MM rear Sway bars (painted red)
Energy Suspension red polyurethane bushings, torque arm, tie rod & ball joint boots
AJE Racing tubular frt. lower control arms (red)
Granatelli rear lower control arms (painted red)
BMR LCA relocation brackets (red)
Herb Adams adjustable Pan hard bar (painted red)
Spohn Sub frame Connectors (painted red)
BMR 3-point Strut Tower brace (red)

KED85

Then I'll just take my ball and go play elsewhere! j/k

DeanE

I thought the subject was about JUST the motor itself, not the drivetrain.

But if you want to know why my 2.8 is fast (for a 2.8V6 that is) its solely due to the drivetrain its bolted to and the highly reduced rotation mass and highly reduce powerloss through a radically buit automatic focused on minimal powertrain loss when built.

Prat of that drivetrain reduction even includes Moser drilled flange axles and a carbon fiber 4 lb driveshaft- much more

But I am not wasting time building the 2.8 block, I will focus on the stronger webbed 3.4 block as a base to machine on, will have the 3.4DIS crank turned down for lightness and balance, 6" Maxilight rods, Ross custom pistons, Supersix heads, Aluminum 1.6 rockers on a compcams .440/.440 (1.5 rocker grind), electric waterpump, alum Fluidamper, portmatched base and middle runners, custom plenum, and hopefully I can get a supercharger kit to work smog legally and stuff some boost into it all and most likely be pushing close to 300 hp when tweaked up and about 250 when not

and Karl, you left that dam bigwheel on my driveway again where my wife almost backed over it, do I have to call your mother?

KED85

What you don't have that TV in dash built in radar don't back up over me Hummer yet? LOL!

Morit

I did a pretty good moding on 2.8 - swapped 383 in place of it :P

firstfirebird

iTrader: (3)

Don't you just love the threads brought back from the dead?! Dean, you want to get in on the Fastest 60*V6 drag car gig?

Six_Shooter

iTrader: (2)

Well since it's brought back....

I think I'd take the prize for most modified 2.8, since the only original 2.8 parts are the block and the rods.

Quick run down:

Block: 2.8 from 1986 S-10
Crank: 3.31" strok crank from an early '90s genII 3.1
Pistons: Hyperwutectis pistons GenII 3.1 replacment pistons (8.9:1 SCR)
Cam: GMPP (Same as Crane 260-2
Heads As last ran: 1995 3100 (stock valve train, excpet for the genI adjustable rocker studs and genII rockers, with genII pushrods)
Intake as last ran: 1995 3100
Headers: Custom built by me.
Turbo: 1986 Turbo coupe (Manual)
BOV: 1st gen Eclipse
Intercooler: Mitsubishi Starion
Belt set-up: 1987 S-10 for signle belt serpintine set-up.
Ignition: DIS
ECM: 1988 Cavalier Z24, Custom programmed PROM with stock TGP code.

I'm sure there's quite a few other details athat I have missed, but that's the jist of it.

Xophertony

wow, that jimmys so awsome I think you can step up to calling it a GMC James.

BTW i think you will have to email Dean. i have not seen him on the boards in quite a while.

Six_Shooter

iTrader: (2)

I'm not suer what you mean by that, but I do call it "James", a nick name given by an ex-GF.

firstfirebird

iTrader: (3)

Have I seen you at 60*v6.com?

Six_Shooter

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, I go by my old user name "The_Raven".