Turbo fuel delivery questions
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Turbo fuel delivery questions
I'm starting my turbo project next weekend and I have a few questions about the fuel delivery. I am going to buy a walbro 255 fuel pump but i'm not sure about injector size, the fmu ratio, or the fuel pressure regulator. I am hoping to make 230-250whp @ 7psi with 19lb injectors with a 4:1 fmu. However, according to this link that firstfirebird sent me, http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm I am going to need larger injectors and an fmu with a much higher ratio. So my question is what combination of injectors, fmu and afpr do I need? Oh, and what afpr's will bolt onto the v6 fuel rail?
Summit sells this one for the tuned port motors and it looks like it will fit, but I'm assuming I will need one that can go lower than 35psi.
Summit sells this one for the tuned port motors and it looks like it will fit, but I'm assuming I will need one that can go lower than 35psi.
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oops, here's the link: http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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if your using a fmu you need to run the stock injectors. the reason is becouse the the fmu wont controll the injector pulse, the ecu does, so if you were to put bigger injectors in there then your car would run rich *** hell becouse your ecu still thinks it has the stockie in there. the best fmu from my experience is the 12 to 1 that means for every psi of boost it will raise you fuel pressure by 12 psi. if you are running a fmu you will not need a afpr becouse your car will run off your stock fpr till you hit boost then it will run off the fmu so it is not needed
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If I use stock injectors and a 12:1 fmu then at 7psi I will have about 126 lb of fuel pressure which can't be safe. The reason I need larger injectors is so that I can run lower fuel pressure and not max the injectors out. I am going to install a fuel pressure regulator so that I can lower the base fuel pressure to compensate for the larger injectors.
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you'll be fine people have been using fmu's on forced induction motors since god knows when. jackson racing, vortec, comptech. your saying all those companies have been doing it wrong all these years and your going to be the ones who does it right and proves them all wrong ?? just go with what works and has been working for years
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you'll be fine people have been using fmu's on forced induction motors since god knows when. jackson racing, vortec, comptech. your saying all those companies have been doing it wrong all these years and your going to be the ones who does it right and proves them all wrong ?? just go with what works and has been working for years
And no, the car won't run rich if you lower base pressure (which gets raised by the FMU). Either way if you have been building cars for years you would know both situations are not the proper way to do it, and would be suggesting to get a computer tune. Both using the AFPR and RRFPR (FMU) or one without the other is still not going to atomize the fuel properly.
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126psi is unsafe, especially since the stock pressure is 43.5 (the ammount the lines are intended to handle).
And no, the car won't run rich if you lower base pressure (which gets raised by the FMU). Either way if you have been building cars for years you would know both situations are not the proper way to do it, and would be suggesting to get a computer tune. Both using the AFPR and RRFPR (FMU) or one without the other is still not going to atomize the fuel properly.
MegaSquirt FTW!
And no, the car won't run rich if you lower base pressure (which gets raised by the FMU). Either way if you have been building cars for years you would know both situations are not the proper way to do it, and would be suggesting to get a computer tune. Both using the AFPR and RRFPR (FMU) or one without the other is still not going to atomize the fuel properly.
MegaSquirt FTW!
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Axle/Gears: 4th 10 bolt hope fully it last
126psi is unsafe, especially since the stock pressure is 43.5 (the ammount the lines are intended to handle).
And no, the car won't run rich if you lower base pressure (which gets raised by the FMU). Either way if you have been building cars for years you would know both situations are not the proper way to do it, and would be suggesting to get a computer tune. Both using the AFPR and RRFPR (FMU) or one without the other is still not going to atomize the fuel properly.
MegaSquirt FTW!
And no, the car won't run rich if you lower base pressure (which gets raised by the FMU). Either way if you have been building cars for years you would know both situations are not the proper way to do it, and would be suggesting to get a computer tune. Both using the AFPR and RRFPR (FMU) or one without the other is still not going to atomize the fuel properly.
MegaSquirt FTW!
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look, we're not saying that a 12:1 fmu is never a good option, it just isn't in this case because my fuel pressure would be way too high and my injectors would be maxed out.
Anyways, I guess I've decided on the injectors and fmu, so does anyone know if this afpr will bolt onto the v6 fuel rail?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Anyways, I guess I've decided on the injectors and fmu, so does anyone know if this afpr will bolt onto the v6 fuel rail?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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look, we're not saying that a 12:1 fmu is never a good option, it just isn't in this case because my fuel pressure would be way too high and my injectors would be maxed out.
Anyways, I guess I've decided on the injectors and fmu, so does anyone know if this afpr will bolt onto the v6 fuel rail?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Anyways, I guess I've decided on the injectors and fmu, so does anyone know if this afpr will bolt onto the v6 fuel rail?
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
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