you mean mull*t...not mohawk

 

I know the doors are heavy, but they need to be to keep the style. They could have done a much better job on the headliner. How hard could that have been. Yeah there are rattles and squeaks, but it's a Chevy or Pontiac. The cars in the 70's and 60's rattled and squeaked also. I get alot of attention from work release crews, more than corvette clubbers, but who cares. A nice clean third gen looks classy in my opinion. If they think I am white trash, I just say: WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT!!!

 

I don't like the way my hood fit, or the way that it came up, it came up all lopsided, then evened out when almost all the way open.

I also don't like how the paint is all nasty looking (cheap maaco from PO)

I also don't like how the PO never seemed to take care of the car either, I just spent 4 hours in my garage, getting to know my scrub brush better, trying to fully clean the tranny.

I can't complain though, I truly love my car, especially since it's my first. I can see it in my head, the way I want it to look, but I love in regardless, even with all her faults

 

well I love my Camaro but there are a few things I wish where done differently

One being the fuel pump who decided to put it above the axle without a factory access panel?????? No one enjoys dropping the exhaust and rearend to change a fuel pump which no matter what will go out.

The red interior, in my opinion I love red interior on cars from the very early 70's down but on my 91 black would be much more fitting to the white.

Chin spoiler scraps......

clunky doors

heavy hood and hatches that wears out the struts and then you have a hood falling on you.

theres more things But I just cant think of any other car that when I see I just think damn thats one sexy car that still has a sense of elegance.

 

don't forget, these cars are at least 20 years old by now, do you realy expect the weatherseals, plastics, paint hood and hatch struts etc last forever???
I use a 87 T/A as a daily driver for almost 10 years now. got 210k on the clock and still the first engine.
I think 3rd gens. are prety solid and reliable cars, but there are still some shorts by design.

The worst thing i think is the poor steering desing and lack of corect Ackermann angle, meaning driving around a corner the outer wheel tries to run a smaller radius than the inner one....

They could at least have used the 2nd gen brakes, that used to be some better.

The body could have been more rigid, on the other hand its way heavy enough.

The single exhaust would have been o.k. if the floorpan would have been designed to mount an optional dual exhaust.

no complaints about the doors, compare them with 2nd gens, and you'll love how light they are.

i personaly hate that they where set up for pretty strong understeer, but this may have kept several other alive, and with a big rear sway it's a easy fix.

the front to rear weight distribution could have been better, since i switched to notchback it's even worse, but i'll fix that pretty soon too.

if you think in terms of security and weight distribution, the position of the gas tank is better than anything earlier, i mean if you run a full or empty tank does make less difference in weight distribution, than it woud do with a 1st or 2nd gen gas tank location.

But after all, if you considerd these cars have been designed almost 30years ago their suspension performance are very good.

 

The only thing I don't like is that it took me so long to get one. Call me whyte trash all you like, i freaking love my IROC!

 

When I bought mine (I bought it new in 1988) I liked most every thing about it. Then about 300,000 miles later, I didn't like the engine anymore. So I installed a Ramjet 350. Then I didn't like the 700r4, so I swaped in a T56. Then I didn't like the wheels or weak brakes, so it got C5 wheels and brakes. Then I didn't like the Ramjet anymore so I swaped in a LS1. Point is, make it like you want it, till you like everything about it. It's getting a 9" ford rear very soon, because I, or the LS1, or the T56, don't like weak 10 bolt any more! Later, Dean

 

I hate how it came factory with horribly designed
-Console
-Stereo
-flip up headlights (though mine have been fine
-General interior fit and finish
-Performance bottlenecks like exhaust.

and I hate my 25 year old car's:
-Squeeks and rattles, which are slowly being fixed
-Weatherstripping (on order)
- A Loud bang coming from inside drivers door somewhere when I hit small bumps
-Sagging drivers door which makes me slam the bad sounding door to close it completely
-Carpet and headliner
-Tires want to break loose all the time
-Weird hood alignment, not very noticible but just off enough to annoy me.
-very very very minor rust but still...

Its all minor stuff I dislike about mine, all expected out of a 25 year old car with 105 000 miles. Nothing on its wrong that a few bucks and some time will take care of.

 

I AGREE!!!

I bought my Iroc because I love it, so I'm not going to say I hate anything about it. I bought it for what it is...

 

AMEN to that. This is probably my biggest pet peeve.

My list.

1. Um...
2. Um...
3. Um...
4. No cupholder
5. Had to find a S10 spare donut so I had a spare that would fit.
6. The crappy plastic retainers for the door panels
7. the crappy plastic retainers/screw points in the hatch area
8. Weak factory breaks
9. Door rattles
10. Inability to find factory replacement T-top moldings (The part that goes around the glass is coming off)
11. Power door locks don't work with power switch, they tend to stick half way and not lock or unlock "all the way".

All in all, I really love my car. I work hard to make sure everything works. Sure, the paint's not the greatest, but that's ok. It'll be the very last thing I do. All in all, for a 26 year old car, I can't complain because the thing runs really well.

 

That's me...you just hit the nail on the head. My wife and friends (except thsoe who are car guys) and family don't understand. They all say it's a money pit. "Why do you keep spending money on it!?" they ask. Especially my dad who to this day drives his Geo Metro with 400K miles on it. They just dont get it. It's a labor of love.

 

1. The hard starting, i know its not a problem with thirdgens in particular, just mine.

2. the 85mph speedo, people look at it and say "it only goes 85? oh its faster? what
happens after 85?" me being the immature person i show them (some exceptionally special people ask why the speedo is labeled "1" "2" "3" "4" "5" "6" lol....

3. The factory layout of the speakers.

4. nose cover sagging

5. the attention, i don't like people staring at me and with no tint it feels like im sitting in a damn fishbowl

6. Almost forgot this one, Cracking the window and it sounding like you're in the middle of a tornado.

I guess I'm one of the only people on here who doesn't really care about the stereo type since, look at me however you want, I'm still drivin a "bitchin camaro" while they're driving a ford explorer or some other bland, everyday car lol. love my iroc <3

And all this speak of rattles, only thing i hear is motley crue/guns n roses, i don't know what yall are talkin about lol.

 

I don't have much experience in driving my third gen, since I drove her around 300 miles, I also drove an 89 on a mile (wouldn't shift 2nd gear).
What I didn't like :

- flimsy plastics on the dashboard and center console, it looks and feels like a cheap toy, but I love the style.
- 85mph/140kph speedo, when the usual highway speed limit is 130kph :/
- the gauges on the far right, the needles sit too high so the reading is not very accurate on the view of the driver.
- dry rotted interior plastics, common problem on early 3rd gens
- lack of insulation and squeaking noises, but maybe it's because I didn't have an headliner and some of the insulation pads were missing
- dry rotted windowfelts and door triangles, the doors were making annoying noises
- overall lack of build quality, but maybe that's because I'm used to working on Porsches
- bad design on the rear calipers, would love to swap them with a newer design
- the design of the early Aero package, I would have rather find a T/A without it
- the quality of the light sand gray Pallex cloth, it is weaker than the other colors for some reason. Most of the seats I see with this interior are torn everywhere on the middle sections of the seats

 

these cars were all show and not much go when they came out...but still as teenagers when my freinds and i saw the camaro and firebird come out in the 80's ....we were in awe!!..we all wanted one ,,especially the iroc...Gm put a reasonable 350 in it finally later...these cars marked our teenage days..i always loved vettes,,but they seemed out of reach,,,a camaro-firebird was closer to reality ...but GM deserves a kick in the a**...they have stopped building good cars for like 40 years now...they made crap over crap and cutting corners on all GM models...including cadillac...they took the consumer for an idiot...that's why they were in that mess a few years back...but i love my camaro!!

 

it seems like GM really cleaned up its act though, shame pontiac had to go but that had to happen.. Same cars just different look.. The new stuff that GM sells looks fantastic and if one day I buy a new car I'd definitely buy American despite hearing bullsh*t from the ignorant people who think they still sell crap from 90's - early 2000's.

 

i'm still a GM guy ,,they got me for good!,,,but looking back at the arrogance of GM and selling a crappy product makes me angry ,,we all spent good money on cars ...they should of treated the customer with a little more respect,,,GM has a bad reputation still today ...they are doing great things now ,,,but it will take some time to change the general publics opinion....

 

Well said.

 

I love what GM's been doing the past couple of years. A great Corvette and Camaro from Chevy, Cadillac CTS, the GMC Sierra Denali is awesome, and if Pontiac was still here, the G8 was fantastic as well.

 

Yeah the G8 was an awesome car.. everytime i see one im more 'wowed' than if i see a new BMW or Mercedes. Partly cuz I know what's under the hood hehe..

 

The doors sagging and the general rattle of the car over bumpy roads.

 

No cup holders - why my passenger seat has spills all over it

The PRND21 plate faded away, i cant tell what gear im in visually

Bolts will loosen on dash area even with red/blue loc tite

Dash pads are absolutely horrible! 3 new pads, and all developed cracks after one summer.

I can break into my car way to easily, pull on the window, pop the t-top

The rear defrosters work as well as a fork with soup

everything rattles

components could have been made of better quality, especially the interior

Have power windows but not power door locks? wtf

every seal , T-top, door, ect has dry rotted "cali car, never had rain"

the rear hatch pull down unit, took me a whole day of tweaking to get it to lock properly and not drain the battery

2.73 gears - what was going through their heads?

Cheap trans servo ! No full power in OD gear ? what bs corvette servo ftw

Single piston calipers, wtf ?

windows take 30 seconds each to go down, if u push both buttons at the same time make it 2 minutes

Swirl port heads

if it rains, then snows, your doors freeze up to where u cant open, or lock them even with good window seals

not ideal for any type of snow - drove in 2 cases of snow, had 2 spin outs, to much tq

I have way more pro's then cons thou these are just some annoyances but will live with

 

I really love 3rdgens and there is nothing I really
dont like about them except that they are impossible to sell

 

That 14 gallon gas tank. Like to fill up with 1/3 tank or so left. At 20mpg that is a constant chore.

 

I have no complaints if this sort. It's a Chevy, not a labrogini.

 

Freaking fuel pump- AGAIN!
Tinny-*** doors with their million little rattles, where every rod attached to every lever or bracket has a SLOPPY FIT(!), lack of decent soundproofing, no SFCs, cardboard door panels (you have GOT to be kidding me!!!), cheap plastic interior panels...
Other than that, everything is peachie!!

 

"Disco" Nova's (1975-1979) where set up that way and on top of that the front hubs stuck out an inch more on each side than the back

 

The s&!ty paint job. Preveous owner dry sprayed and tiger striped the maui blue. The door jambs are still gunmetal gray. Going back to original color next year.

 

i think give it about 5-10 years more,,as 3rd gens start to disapear because either they are brought to the scrap yards or accidents,,,the selling price will go up quite a bit,,there are too many right now to get good money for them...i had a 79 trans am with the 6.6L..it was black and with the gold bird on the hood,,,it was mint!...i coudn't sell it about 15 years ago..i coudn't get $3000 for it!,,,i recently seen some TA's like i had in great shape like i had go for $10000+...i think 3rd gens will be no different....

 

It is all about supply when determining value...Why are the 1969 Z28's worth so much? The hemi cuda's? Boss 429 Mustangs? They made very few! What about the 1976-1979 Porsche 930 turbo's? Same deal--they only made 4000 of them!!

They made 2.5 million 3rd gen's (camaro and firebird)!!! Rust, accidents and neglect take their toll and as the supply dwindles the prices go up. Personally, I think we are getting to the bottom of the cheap 3rd gens...Only time will tell.

 

Oddly enough, 1st gen Camaro production is among the highest numbers to date. From 67-69 (3 years) they made 699,138 Camaros. From 1982-1992 (11 years) they made 1,528,561. 1990-1992 was just over 200,000 units making them some of the lowest runs to date.

 

She's hard to start at first but after that, just turn the key and she's good.
The heavy a$$ back hatch and the off set on the wheels.

As for the stereo type, I am a person of color let's say, so that just flew out the window. I've got an 86 iroc, 05 silverado, and a 03 harley. They censored my last comment, so if you wanna know what nickname I got from the boys in my bike group, pm me. your sure to get a good laugh.

 

The only things I would change on my car would be the RS rims, the horrible alignment of the trunk to the body, or the fact that it is an automatic. Other than that, I love my IROC!

 

the quadrajet carb (sensitive..nothing but problems), bumpy ride, and its a gas hog!

 

Do you have RS rims on an IROC?

 

Those obviously arent stock rims for a 1990 IROC. Looks like someone put 91-92 Z28 rims on it.

 

Fischer Price "My First Interior".

 

lmaoooooo

 

LOL you could also use Kool Tools to help you out

 

I'm getting to like my 3rd gens more every day.The plastic door sill and door trim pieces bug me though.They should have made them of metal or at least thicker plastic.There are a few machanical things the designers could have done better in the engine bay area.

 

What mechanical things do you mean?

 

My top gripes:
-chassis not overly ridgid(fixed mine-SFCs,etc)
-dinky 7.5 ring gear-HiPo versions should have had 8.5
like the g-bods...
-dinky brakes-HiPo versions should have had at least
1LE from day one...
-klutz plastic interior paneling out back .

 

To be completely honest I love everything about my car. Cant do much complaining with a 20 year old car, things take wear and tear and there is nothing you can do about it without being the original owner.

The only thing I would change is the cheap materials they used to make it.

 

But that's one thing I love about these cars. Almost everything is simple. It's easy to do stuff and they don't over do the interior. It's just simple. I like that.

 

Little things,like having to remove or loosen alot of parts just to take the EGR tube and heat shield off and change it.or to get to the dizzy lock down nut or pass. side rear spark plug ya gota have small hands with long fingers.It's just so tight in there,especialy with air conditioning and smog stuff.I still love'm though.I got small hands.Just not long fingers

 

Things I do not like about the thirdgen I currently own:

Transmission could be better,

Insufficient braking power of the stock brakes (replaced now)

Lack of stability in the stock torque arm and panhard bar, as well as the lower control arms. They still need to go, but working on that.

Airflow to the TBI unit is ... not the best.
Considering whether to swap to an SS hood and make it functional or build some kidn of ram air setup.

With the SS hood Im certain that (providing I add aluminum L98 heads, headers, loose A/C and save some weight here and there I can save up to 200 lbs on the front alone, rediistributing weight to a more favorable 56/44 front/rear weight distribution

 

I fish tail my car around tight u turns!!

 

sounds like true love

 

How about the complete lack of any remote resemblance to quality control over the entire 10 yr production run?

Center drag link steering on a performance car.

Hood shock woefully inadequate for the weight of a factory hood (and no prop rod to make up for when they fail completely).

The worst, most restrictive factory exhaust ever installed on a production performance car.

A single O2 sensor mounted on only one bank of the exhaust instead of dual sensors or a mount in the y-pipe collector.

No space for true dual exhaust.

T-top channels with no built in way for the water to escape (which leads to horrible corrosion and pitting / holes).

Questionable V8 induction systems (Crossfire - also known as Catchfire, TPI - too small in stock form to adequately feed anything larger than a 305).

No baffles in the fuel tank (anyone else's fuel tank bounce?).

Horrible blind spots.

The famously fantastical craptastical plastastical interior materials.

Glove box??

No Camaro cup holder in a 10 yr period. But the Firebird got them...?

Impossible to repair rubberized ABS ground effects.

Bone jarring suspension.

More creaks and groans than an elderly couple having intercourse.

GM's love for making things ridonculously hard to get at...ever try to get to that last manifold bolt on the passenger side?

Pot metal door handles.

GTA tail lights that delaminate with no aftermarket replacement or possible repair.

 

how the dashes crack. thats the worst thing. I have subframe connectors now so its less bad bad i have cracks!

 

As strange as it may seem, I have no complaints! I have driven almost every kind of car out there. i sold my amazing Lincoln Town Car,Turbo diesel Mercedes in the last year. I have always driven classy and nice rides. I bought my first camaro in 1996 Iroc Z28 TPI 86 T-Top. It was in mint shape when I got it and never had a problem with it.
I sold it and missed it until I got my 89 RS. I love that the doors are heavy, reminds me of the 67 super sport chevelle 2-door i drove for my first car. Then i bought my first GTO convertible. Red with white leather interior! I have had some really nice rides. But there is something about the third Gen I have always loved. well i must say I am not thrilled about owning a V6 but, I also have a 91 350, not running. Thinking about dropping it in the 89 but I like stock, Original, they are a sickness, My dream is to own one of every Gen! If I were to have a complaint i would have to say rattles..I chase them like a dog. Trying to have a tight and ratleless ride!!