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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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Right Hand Drive Third Gen

I was asked in another thread for a pic of my 91Z28, here in Australia. So here it is.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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I hope I do not offend anyone but that is soooo Polish.

Like a glass bottom boat made from sliding patio doors.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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I think it's cool as hell looking at right-hand-drive thirdgens. It's great to see how similar yet different it is.

Thanks for the pic! Oh, and your interior is in beautiful condition!
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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have you ever driven on the left side? . you prob look at our cars the same way we look at yours...what the hell is it doing on the other side!
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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Kinda cool to see, looks clean!

I like the 4th gen wheel in there too.

Curious that the ebrake handle is on the wrong side. I guess they cut a corner here or there.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:09 AM
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it looks wierd, did they do that with firebords too. the right hand drive i mean .
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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I have driven an auto LHD car here but not in the US.
I think i would find driving a manual shift strange, not used to shifting with my right hand.

When they do the conversion it's so expensive they change only what they have to, $10K AUS is an average cost .

Yes they do it to firebirds , all cars exept 30 year old have to be converted. So with the initial purchase price , shipping cost to AUS , taxes and import duties and conversions a third gen can get expensive .

My 91Z28 Vert is valued at $27,000 Aus it is in only above average condition.
We have all F Body Generations in RHD here.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Will try to get some better pics of mine or other cars in RHD if your interested
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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wow, odd looking at a third gen like that, but it looks kinda neat too
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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shifting with your left hand must be weird lol
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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wild....!

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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That shifter / 1st looks far away. or is it in 5th?

I bet that is the normal stock shifter too huh. Cheap skates.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Thats sofaking weird, can you get just the dash shell itself and if so how much is it ?

Is that 4th gen steering wheel part of the conversion ?
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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That would be great if you were a mail truck driver. Just immagine going to an ATM or bank window or fast food. You would have to go backwards all the time.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by Gumby
That shifter / 1st looks far away. or is it in 5th?

I bet that is the normal stock shifter too huh. Cheap skates.
It's in 1st. Even though its a RHD car the trannys/shift patterns stay the same. It'd be SO weird in a race to be pulling outwards for your first-to-second shift than pulling towards yourself!

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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haha yeh pulling in a drivethrough must be fun with a RHD , you might have to climb over or yell your lungs out so the people can hear you
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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or are the drivethrus on the other side of you where he lives?? (i.e. on the right side of the car.)

Very interesting question.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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Perhaps when you have the money to buy a RHD car in this country the fast food employees and bank tellers come out to you.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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We drive on the left side of the road , hence right hand drive cars.
All the drive thrus are on the appropriate side of the car for the driver. We also have had some laughs at guys in our car club that still have LHD cars when we go out for a cruise to a Macca's .

The question of shifting gears? well i guess when thats the only way i have done it , it seems natural.

The original steering wheel was replace with the 4thgen unit as the converter had one there when the car didn't pass registration with the original,(damaged i was told).

The consul , box and shifter remain untouched .

When the conversion is done the dash panels are custom made by the converter usually Fibreglass or cut and welded.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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are manual arcade games that way too?

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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I have always wondered this. If you are walking down a hallway in a left hand drive country and someone is walking towards you Do you both out of habit dodge to the left? I have noticed here that people in large crowds end up walking on the right just like if they were driving.

Sorry to get off topic of thirdgens I just find this really interesting.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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yeh its like they live a whole different lifestyle, you guys are like aliens, sort of like left handed people, dont you think they do things differently, once again sorry to get off topic...and sorry if i offended any left handed people, but back on topic which do you prefer driving,, LHD or RHD
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Cropped all the white out for ya.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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Thanks for that.
I found a pic of a 1st gen that is RHD , you can see the chrome brake booster, the 3rd gen behind it is a genuine cop car still LHD.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by Ausragtop
the 3rd gen behind it is a genuine cop car still LHD.


A thirdgen Trans Am.........cop car

Forget the blower...let's see some pics of the Cop car.....
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by Ausragtop
Will try to get some better pics of mine or other cars in RHD if your interested

Where'd that map pocket come from on your door?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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Thats badass....but like what flyinlow said...cop car pics!!!

Please
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Forget the blower...let's see some pics of the Cop car.....

agreed!
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 03:31 AM
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The map pockets on the doors are the type of acc pockets that strap to your sun visor, cut staps off and velcrow sticks to carpet.

The police car was bought at auction in the US years ago with most original equiptment still there so he deceided to keep it as original as possible.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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With an Aussie cop car at a car meet.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Deffinatly different!
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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good stuff man! I think its great to see F-Body car clubs all over the world...truly is great that lots of people still appreciate them

Also is very cool at seeing some RHD cars...i cant imagine what stick is like, be so akward lol. I guess if u grow learning that way its all natural kinda like LHD to us.

Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ausragtop
With an Aussie cop car at a car meet.
Wow, is that a GTO cop car back there? Or a Monaro or whatever you guys call it?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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The Holden police car is the same mechanically as the monaro( GTO) but is a 4 door version.

If your interested in F/Bodies and other American cars in Australia then try www.camaro-firebird.org thats our club.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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lol does anyone even have parts for a lhd fbody anymore? how hard is it to find a replacment peice for that interior...
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by Ausragtop
The police car was bought at auction in the US years ago with most original equiptment still there so he deceided to keep it as original as possible.
Sweetness.........:hail:

I had no idea the Trans Am was used as a cop car in the United States.......

Either way, it's cool, What about the legal issues with having a car that has cop lights on the roof??? That can't be too legal to drive daily around the streets.......
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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We have good parts suppliers here ( www.usgmserviceparts.com ) for one.
The interior parts are the same just placed in different positions the main dash panel is the only custom part really that could give problems.

The cop car can't be regestered for general use , besides the lights etc it is still LHD and is not 30 years old yet to qualify for registration that way, when it does go out to shows etc it does so under special permits.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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my dad bought me a firebird book cuz it had a pic of a car just like mine and it also has pix of GTA cop cars and a formula cop car, too.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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OK lots of comments and questions


Maybe someone should make a finish kit for the RHD cars. Put the Ebrake and shifter in the right spot. A new shifter design and get the pattern sticker where it should n so on. That would really finish off the car.

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I can see someone now getting a RHD dash mold it with a normal. With dual gauge pods for two driver racing, a LCD or stereo system spot.

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OK who makes them louvers??? I like that kind. Looks like one piece molded that gives shade but doesn't cover up the back window 100%.

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Its strange but other countries love our cars too.

There is a big thread about Buick's in Japan. Just blocks from a guy working over there was a car lot full of classic muscle cars form the past. I guess right now you can ship any cool car to Japan and make more then enough to do it over n over again. Lots of really cool cars get shipped off.

http://v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41851
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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Originally posted by Gumby
...Put the Ebrake and shifter in the right spot. A new shifter design and get the pattern sticker where it should n so on...
It is in the right spot. RHD and LHD cars both shift in the exact same pattern, Left to Right (1st to 5th) so the original shift pattern map thing would work. Maybe I miss understood what you were saying though...

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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 02:57 AM
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So since the steering column is on the other side, I'm assuming the steering box is also on the other side? Rest of the linkage is the same?
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:01 AM
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The whole steering column is moved and a holden steering box is used but the majority of the steering stays the same.
There is a type of steering conversion that leaves everything as is until it comes from the eng bay through the firewall , it then has what is described as a chain link under the dash to the steering wheel on the other side.
The type that i have on mine is what is called a mirror conversion when everything is changed under the dash and on the firewall.
I have added 2 pics, one is the location of the steering box, the other is a eng bay shot to show the firewall, not great pics but not good camera!
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:08 AM
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Firewall
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by 90RS305
It is in the right spot. RHD and LHD cars both shift in the exact same pattern, Left to Right (1st to 5th) so the original shift pattern map thing would work. Maybe I miss understood what you were saying though...

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The Ebrake is on the wrong side and the shifter should be closer. All it takes is to tilt the trans the other way.


A RHD car should look like a mirror image of a LHD car. Its not a mirror imaged it blows the whole look to me. It should be mirrored.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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When they do the conversion it's so expensive they change only what they have to, $10K AUS is an average cost .
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