Weight Reduction + 19" wheels = This stance....pictures within...
Weight Reduction + 19" wheels = This stance....pictures within...

So a can of soda is roughly 5 inches...my car is now about 28-29 inches off the ground....

And the weight reduction in the front has sucessfully nearly matched the height in the back of the car and the fron of the car......
So i need to cut those springs and lower my car back down.....It's already got lowering springs on the car.....
On a side note, to save my manhood.......Those soda cans are my roommates, and my roommate is a girl......I don't drink that crap........
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damn... All that stuff you have done to that car and no ruler, tape measurer, or straight edge?? lol
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yeah, in some of the pics when u were driving across country it seemed like you had more gap in the front than in the back... i guess cutting off a little in the front wouldnt hurt. what springs are they, btw?
lol,
....I don't know any of the above listed items.......if you want to know some behind the scenes, I came up with the soda can being 5 inches by placing two next to an 11x8 sheet of paper and there was roughly 1" left.........:lala:
DropZone lowering springs......
....I don't know any of the above listed items.......if you want to know some behind the scenes, I came up with the soda can being 5 inches by placing two next to an 11x8 sheet of paper and there was roughly 1" left.........:lala:DropZone lowering springs......
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
lol,
....I don't know any of the above listed items.......if you want to know some behind the scenes, I came up with the soda can being 5 inches by placing two next to an 11x8 sheet of paper and there was roughly 1" left.........:lala:
lol,
....I don't know any of the above listed items.......if you want to know some behind the scenes, I came up with the soda can being 5 inches by placing two next to an 11x8 sheet of paper and there was roughly 1" left.........:lala: I accepted this, but I didnt know you even lacked most stationary tools

Before you do any more car modding I think some measuring tape, some scissors and possible some glue are in order.
As for the springs. Since you need to lower an already lowered car. And you wont be cutting stock springs to get a 2 inch drop, I am sure a slight trimming of the dropzone's should be ok.
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Alittle heat on one of the coils and it will set down, but I don't know how it would effect the handleing of the car. Just put blocks under the car to keep it from going to low.
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2 things.
1st DO NOT HEAT THE SPRINGS.. you will deff loose the effectiveness of them. cut a 1/4 to 1/2 coil off at a time and let them cool slow.
2nd Is it just me or does your never/door not line up right.?
1st DO NOT HEAT THE SPRINGS.. you will deff loose the effectiveness of them. cut a 1/4 to 1/2 coil off at a time and let them cool slow.
2nd Is it just me or does your never/door not line up right.?
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there isnt anything wrong with heating your springs..i did it..
only thing i have to warn you about if you decide to do it this way...
do the front first then the back..
BUT...
take a measurement before you start heating...(top of wheel to rim of wheelwell)
and then decide what you wanna go towards (lowness)
cuz if you dont do that...youll be all cawkeyed and have one side lower then the other and it will just look dumb
i havent lost too much strength in my suspention...i had the eibach somethin or others..and heated them alot...so i dropped around 4.5 inches or so..but they are goin out the window soon as i am gettin air bags to bagg my beast..
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only thing i have to warn you about if you decide to do it this way...
do the front first then the back..
BUT...
take a measurement before you start heating...(top of wheel to rim of wheelwell)
and then decide what you wanna go towards (lowness)
cuz if you dont do that...youll be all cawkeyed and have one side lower then the other and it will just look dumb
i havent lost too much strength in my suspention...i had the eibach somethin or others..and heated them alot...so i dropped around 4.5 inches or so..but they are goin out the window soon as i am gettin air bags to bagg my beast..
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
take a measurement before you start heating...(top of wheel to rim of wheelwell)
and then decide what you wanna go towards (lowness)
take a measurement before you start heating...(top of wheel to rim of wheelwell)
and then decide what you wanna go towards (lowness)

Just messin with ya flynlow.
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I know this is out of topic, but what part of Miami are you from.
I live in Kendall & would love to meet you and take a look at your beautiful car in person.
I live in Kendall & would love to meet you and take a look at your beautiful car in person.
Once i get the shocks/struts in the car, i'll down a 12 pack for ya pasky and do some remeasuring with the empty cans and see where i need to lower it......
........There are rubbing issues with the front because there is WAY too much travel when going fast over bumps.....
.....So some new shocks/struts are in store
Alexcoqui, I live in broward county, right outside Hollywodd to be exact.....I'll post when i make it back to S. Florida because i rarely do between school and working in cali
I could only imagine what effect my 19's would have had on the clearance of the car had i not put lowering springs in........
........There are rubbing issues with the front because there is WAY too much travel when going fast over bumps.....
.....So some new shocks/struts are in storeAlexcoqui, I live in broward county, right outside Hollywodd to be exact.....I'll post when i make it back to S. Florida because i rarely do between school and working in cali
I could only imagine what effect my 19's would have had on the clearance of the car had i not put lowering springs in........
no offense, but this doesn't look like a 4.5 inch drop to me.
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Originally posted by pasky
I'd say take 1/8 of a coke can off the spring.
Just messin with ya flynlow.
I'd say take 1/8 of a coke can off the spring.

Just messin with ya flynlow.
How is he going to know what 1/8 of a coke can is without a ruler?
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Originally posted by ajbutowicz
How is he going to know what 1/8 of a coke can is without a ruler?
How is he going to know what 1/8 of a coke can is without a ruler?
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How high does an iroc sit stock, im going to have to go out and measure tommorow, but i dont see how you can lower your car much more anyways because you only have like an inch of fender gap anyways
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Originally posted by iroc2nv
there isnt anything wrong with heating your springs..i did it..
there isnt anything wrong with heating your springs..i did it..
BUT i have to add a few things.
Flylow, shock/struts wont really help you bottoming out. that is controlled mainly by the spring rate. IMNSHO do it right, call ground control, get adjustable spring pearches, and some good high-rate springs, and do it right. in the end, why spend so much money, then half-*** the suspension.
I'm with Dewey. Spring pertches and specific rate springs will solve your problem. I recommend calling Ground Control and asking them what they think. They had no problem setting me up for my 91Z, even when I told them I wanted a certain stance for looks at shows. You can specify the rates (or go with what they recommend), and then adjust the ride height to whatever you like. You can achieve the stance you want (even with the bigger than normal sidewalls) but you will have to sacrafice ride quality.
Heating the springs is actually a bad idea. You will change the tempering of the metal and the spring rates will go lower. This is what makes the car feel bouncy or sloppy. Heat is the enemy when modifying springs. If you cut them properly then the spring rates go up (which is what you want as the ride height goes lower).
Heating the springs is actually a bad idea. You will change the tempering of the metal and the spring rates will go lower. This is what makes the car feel bouncy or sloppy. Heat is the enemy when modifying springs. If you cut them properly then the spring rates go up (which is what you want as the ride height goes lower).
Originally posted by Dewey316
Flylow, shock/struts wont really help you bottoming out.
Flylow, shock/struts wont really help you bottoming out.
I'll be going with a smaller sidewall when i get new tires.......

What would you suggest doing first, cutting the springs, or getting new shocks/struts?
Hmm yeh looks like your fender needs adjusted down and in. I agree the front does need lowered a bit what about some sport lines. They are racked arent they but i guess it depends on the car .
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if you are hitting the frame rails now, the problem you have is 2 fold.
1) you are sitting to low.
2) not enough spring rate.
obviously you want to keep you car low, not problem there. so you have to look at #2, you need a higher rate spring, that will keep you from hitting the frame rail. cutting the spring will only worsen your problem.
As for shocks/struts, i ALWAYS recomend getting a good pair, BUT the task of the shocks/struts is to mearly control the springs from ossilating (spelling). the will not keep the spring from compressing as far is it does.
1) you are sitting to low.
2) not enough spring rate.
obviously you want to keep you car low, not problem there. so you have to look at #2, you need a higher rate spring, that will keep you from hitting the frame rail. cutting the spring will only worsen your problem.
As for shocks/struts, i ALWAYS recomend getting a good pair, BUT the task of the shocks/struts is to mearly control the springs from ossilating (spelling). the will not keep the spring from compressing as far is it does.
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