http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6427 ???? If I only had the money???

 

that thing is GORGOUS!

 

i love the perfect statement, nothing is perfect with 12,000 miles.



nice car though, always liked the gta.

 

:hail:

 

Thats a nice GTA. Too nice in fact. I need something that can be driven. That car needs to be in a museum!

 

i love the perfect statement, nothing is perfect with 12,000 miles

:werd: my car has 14k org miles and it aint perfect either (not even close to be) still very clean and nice.. Also tat GTA kicks ***!:hail:

 

How "rare" is this combo?

 

pretty damn rare you dont find many very low mileage thirdgens anymore

 

i like the "Horsepower: 300?"

 

Sure it can. Just because something has been used rather extensively doesn't mean it can't be maintained to the standards of one that has had the luxury of being left alone. Though I do concede it's terribly rare that someone is willing to invest the time, effort, and money to sustain a car through the miles.

Case in point - our 1945 Indian bike has been restored and cared for so meticulously that it still looks, rides, and handles as it did when it was delivered to the U.S. military. I know, I'm comparing apples and oranges, but it's the best example I have at the moment.

 

For sure that interior "leather with lumber" is pretty rare.

 

yes but it was restored, key word there... this car hasnt anything that old with miles wont be absolutely perfect. Notice its a NY car and theres no undercarriage pics and only one pretty bad engine shot (shouldnt that say 5.7L?) I'd be willing to bet theres a bit of surface rust going on on the bottom (not stock exhaust either *cough*rusted off*cough*) Still looks pretty nice tho, ebay ads just irritate me when they state no flaws and just describe it as perfect.

 

The guy is claiming it is rare because it has a 350 with t-tops

 

hay....that car was or is registered in the same county i live in.

 

That car is rediculously clean.:hail:

 

The thing that I think is hilarious is the bill of sale when he bought it for less that half of his buy it now, let alone that was almost 9 years ago.

 

What caught my eye was the t top 5.7 combo.I have never seen one with this combo and was wondering how many of these were actually produced . I saw the horsepower # too It came stock with 240 add 15 for exhaust and maybe 10 for a k-n filter and that still falls short of 300 ..I'd say about 260 horses ..I will email the guy and tell him that I want to buy it for $10k due to the false statement in the add Either way whoever buys this car is getting a nice clean thirdgen with a rare t top 5.7 option .But I would never pay 22k for it ..You could find a real nice tta for that kind of money.. I don't know if this holds true but on another board someone stated that this car is 1 of 11 in 1989 with this combo .. RARE .........

 

The t-top/350 combo isn't rare. He says in the description that they didn't offer it because the 350 had too much torque, but then goes on to say that some were produced.

And 10 HP for a K&N is a bit high

 

The t-top/350 combination is not rare....AT ALL!!! You could get a t-topped 350 from the factory up until 1990. Then in 1991 with the new banshee style Trans Am, GM came up with this "idea" that the 350's made too much torque for a t-topped car. So production of t-topped 350's stopped in 1991 and for 1992. Then when the fourth gens cam along you could get a t-topped LT1 car!

 

i wonder if the dash is cracked...notice the dash pad...or is that stock?

 

Yea Speed88 is pretty much dead on. My 89 Formula has T-tops from the factory and a 350 TPI. At one time I had an engine in the car that was making 320 horsepower. I never had a problem with twisting or tweaking the body or whatever problem is associated with t-tops and torque. Does anyone know of actual problems with those later model years?

 

Not really, there are factory 350/ttop 91/92 firebirds. Look up member mdformula350.

 

350 t tops isn't rare at all , finding a hardtop gta, nows that different.

and in 91-92 oyu could get a 350 t tops bird just not a camaro

 

My car is sitting at 11,997 right now. It's close to perfect, but has a few paint blemishes. Those paint blemishes offset the flaws from the factory that I fixed. Other than that, my floor mats are the only other thing not perfect anymore. They don't look new anymore.

 

I figured the example was less than helpful to some. That aside, you can still maintain a car sufficiently enough to warrant the "perfect" statement or any other similar adjective you wish.

To borrow a tired cliche - if I can do it anyone can.

 

he says its a perfect car, but look at the passenger side sun visor


VERY nice car. :hail:

 

You couldn;t get it in a GTA, just go on the GTAsourcepage.com and see for yourself. So why could you get it in a Formula. I'm pretty sure his car is not a t-top?

 

its deffinatley a t-top...but maybe the drivetrain was swapped? i think this is too good to be true...and again i'll say...whats with the dash pad?? a "perfect car" shouldnt need a dash pad...but maybe its stock?

 

like everyone else is saying a 350 with t tops is NOT rare its called a GTA what is rare is finding an actual GTA without t tops and a 350 (i think ive seen a few) anyways i have a question

Why did gm not want so much torque on a t top car??? Whats the big deal?? will too much torque damage the t tops or something??? When i add a bigger engine to my 350 t top GTA i dont want to have problems.

 

too much torque is supposed to twist the car so the t-tops dont seal right...thats what i heard...

 

Why are you guys talking about how rare the t-top 350 combo is. The first thing I noticed was that it has louvers with a warp around spoiler(that isn't cracked but it looks like the dashpad might be). I didn't think this combo was possible because the both the louvers and spoiler clip to the side of the hatch. I tried to put louvers on my formula that has the wrap around spoiler and it won't fit. If I put the louvers on first it might fit. All I'm saying it thats pretty rare. Unless any of you have pics of a wrap around with louvers.

 

too much torque?? like 330lbft is alot.


twisting can be eliminate somewhat with subframe connectors and stiffer chassis/suspension components

or add a 4 or 6 point cage/roll bar and be done with it LOL

 

could you get louvers from the factory?

 

Yep! Starting in '83.

 

wow...never knew that....i wonder how many came with louvers?

 

It is, and is a factory car still with the matching RPO tag. I have seen it in person, it also has the black crosslace wheels on the tag.

 

No, starting in 86. Aftermarket was available in 83, factory louvers became available in 86.

 

yeah mine is a 91 formula 350 with L98 and the option of t-tops and gta rims.

:lala:

 

I have a friend who has that exact car minus the louvers sitting in a garage now for more than 10 years. His has just under 50,000 on it and is definitely not anywhere near as clean. They are definitely twins though.

 

I think all this talk about having T-Tops with a 350 will twist the frame is and ruin the T-Tops is BS. GM may have said it, but it's not going to do anything damaging. Look at the GN's. They had T-Tops and the torque suposedly twisted thier frames. Did it damage the T-Tops? I saw in GMHP Magazine this guy who has a T-Type running 10's with T-Tops! This goes along the same lines as the '86 Pontiac Grand Prix 2+2. Pontiac didn't put T-Tops on them because they said the wind coming in from the T-Tops would blow the rear window out. I don't believe it, look at the F-Body's. They have a similar rear hatch window and they don't blow out. I think even the Monte Carlo SS Aerocoupes could get T-Tops.

 

I agree with what you are saying that it's BS, but ALL the cars you just mentioned were GM G bodies, which had FULL frames. Apples to oranges...

 

For a 5.0 auto, can't believe how much $$ its getting.

Sure its in nice condition but I've got a near mint 89 GTA with the 5spd G92 3.45 rear 5.0 package which in my opinion is a hell of a better package...

 

Man that sure brings back memorys of when I bought my first thirdgen, a flame red 86 trans am with just about every option you could get from the factory in 86 with premo paint *crys* she looked so hot. Oh the silver bumper cover was after a little misshap but she still looked great after that

 

That is my cars twin minus the louvers and the T Tops. My car is an 88 though with alot more miles but hasnt been restored because it doesnt need it. So how rare is that interrior exactly? I was gonna change mine out but if its as rare as you say Im gonna keep it but I need to recover the front seats soon because the leather is drying out. I am starting to think my car is kinda rare seeing as it has some of the not so common options.