Hey whats up guys. I'm looking to buy my first camaro, I'll start out with what I know. Its an 85 Z28 IROC with the 305 TPI engine and auto tranny. Only has 57k on the clock so its just starting to get broke in. Car is very solid and very straight and I was told it was garaged for most of its life. The guy I am looking to buy it from got it from a guy that couldnt get it to run. I was told that all the sensors were replaced and some were even changed twice to no avail. So it was sold and It turns out that it just had a clogged cat and it runs mint besides a few holes in the cat There is a hole in the radiator that will need fixed or need a new radiator. The interior is in very good shape aside from a couple cigarette burns in the seat Over all it is in great shape for being an 85. He is asking $2000 for it and just wanted some opinions first. Thanks guys

 

You probably won't get it for much less than $2000, but give it a shot. It looks to be in relatively good shape in the pics. The radiator and cat shouldn't bee too much trouble, it's hard to find these cars without some sort of mechanical trouble (they're gettin old).

My main question is: Why does the IROC have an 85 MPH speedometer and base model wheels? Something aint right...

 

My 85 IROC had an 85 mph speedo (and it is an IROC). The car, though, as Scotty pointed out, should have 16-inch IROC rims (check the door jam for tire size--should read 16's). Check for the B4Z RPO, the wonderbar, interior badging. I could be wrong but I don't think IROCs were two-toned. IROCs also had black headlight pockets. How about door decals and body stripes? Those fog lights aren't stock either. I think you have some reason to be suspicious.

JamesC

 

Not really sure, it doesnt have any IROC badges on the exterior just one inside on the dash. Maybe its some sort of freak pre-iroc iroc? I'll get the vin and run it, see if carfax can tell me anything. I think the guy has the title too but I dont know if it would be marked on there or not. Hes not trying to sell it to me as an IROC I just saw the interior badge and figured it was. Paint me noob He told me the car was repainted at one time maybe they decided to go two-tone when they did.

 

Check the RPO codes on the underside of the center console lid to see if it's got "B4Z". If it does, it's an IROC. If not, it's just a Z28.

If it's an iroc, it's got the wrong wheels, and either way, the painted ground effects certainly aren't stock, but then again, neither is the rest of the paint job.

I see it's got the center console clock. That's an extremely rare option for an IROC to have, but most that did have it had the base level interior like that one. That car probably came with an AM radio originally, which didn't have a clock (due to no digital display) which is why it came with the console clock.

The car looks decent overall, but perhaps a bit steep for its condition. It's got low milage, but that aside, it's still an IROC that doesn't run and needs body work.

 

I have an original 85 Iroc and it has the 85MPH Speedo. The rims are def not right. I paid $2000 for mine and wasnt even running right. It needs injectors. I would check if thats 157K miles though! My car was also in storage for a while. It needed a full tuneup, so expect to drop that in. I would offer $1500 and say that the rims and paint are not original, if it is trully an Iroc. Good luck

 

It runs good and strong, just needs some minor things. And aside from the ding in the fender and somebody using the wrong paint to paint the gfx the rest of the body is great. All the rockers are solid and the underside of the car has virtually no rust at all. Thanks for the input, any of this stuff I wouldnt have caught myself, still learning and all. And would there be anything I would have to be cautious about as far as it being the first year for the tpi in the camaro? I read that the trannies were better later on with revisions. But I'll see what I can find out about it being an IROC. Thanks again guys.

 

The computer is OBD1, not OBD2. The OBD1 does not store trouble codes. Buy the $50 scanner and leave it in the car. If the engine light comes on, shut the car off and plug in the sensor. Thats the only way you will be able to know what went wrong. Is this your first Camaro? Are you planning on keeping it? Expect to do the following:
*Full tune up, all filters, plugs, wires, fluids, cap and rotor.
*If you are gonna keep it for a while you can do the suspension.

I don't want to sway you from buying the car, but it has a 305, and no TTops. If you want TTops and a 350, you can find that car for the same price. Just a suggestion.

 

Be sure and run that Carfax. I'd be wary of a garage-kept '85 Camaro that doesn't run correctly and supposedly has 57K miles. It sounds more like 157K miles, but check with Carfax.

 

yeha id say definatly check and make sure its not at 157K. why whould gm even make a 5 digit odometer????

ps. didtn the IROC start in 87 with the GTA?

 

why whould gm even make a 5 digit odometer????

* I agree!

ps. didtn the IROC start in 87 with the GTA?

* Nope, the Iroc was in 85 with only a 305! I plan on swapping mine out once I get my summer hom eIN Pennsylvania. I am in Brooklyn now with No garage or anything!

 

I had a friend that had one just like that, same colors. I always liked those colors on that car.

 

I have a subscription to Carfax, I ran one on my Trooper, and bought the 30 day subscription. So give me the VIN and I will run it and save you the cash.

 

sweet thanks man, I'll get the VIN asap

 

VIN - 1G1FP87F8FN117487

Enamel - WA-l8547 U8547

Its looking more and more not to be an IROC

 

My 87 only has a five digit odometer. =\. And an 85 mph speedometer.. You sure that isn't a GFX added Berlinetta/sports coupe???

Also... Don't IROCs come with the headlight inlets painted black?

And thirdly, by the foglights, there should be the black peice that says "Camaro" on it if it wasn't touched.. Correct?

 

Okay I am going to run the CarFax now, hold on.....
*** I hate dial up
Okay Its going.... its going... still going...

Oh yeah, my subscription runs out the 16th of September, so if anyone wants a CarFax let me know, I am whoring out my account :-D
Okay here you go, the info... I am not sure if the link will work without a username, but I will give you the link and the info....
http://www.carfax.com/cfm/UUCP_ViewR...FX000009822322
Year/Make/Model: 1985 CHEVROLET CAMARO

Body Style: COUPE
Engine: 5.0L V8 TPI HO OHV
Fuel: GASOLINE
Driveline: REAR WHEEL DRIVE
Manufactured in: UNITED STATES
Safety Equipment: Active (manual) belts
Standard Equipment: Power Windows Optional, Power Steering, Air Conditioning Optional, AM, Power Brakes, Tilt Wheel Optional, 5-digit Odometer

t has a consistent mileage history with no indication of an odometer rollback. The last odometer reading, reported on 09/28/2004, was 57,900 miles.

This coupe has had at least 2 owners. The first title for this coupe was reported to CARFAX by a Pennsylvania DMV in 2000

CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1985 CHEVROLET CAMARO (1G1FP87F8FN117487).


Date: Mileage:
05/11/2000 57,500
09/28/2004 57,900




That is all the main stuff if you cant get the link. So no it is NOT a IROC or Z28, but it does only have 57k on it. Good luck man, hope it all works out, Id say its a good buy!

 

Yea cant look at the report without a user name and password. Damn so its not even a Z28 I would have to say I'm pretty disapointed. I could live with it not being an IROC but I cant deal with having a fake Z28 just doesnt seem right. Oh well I guess i'll keep looking. Thanks again.

 

That carfax won't tell you if it is an IROC or not. Neither will the title, when I transfered the title for my GTA from ND to IA It just said Firebird Coupe on it. When I registered in Iowa I told the lady it was a trans am GTA and that was put on the title. They don't check anything and it doesn't mean anything. The only way to tell for sure is to look at the RPO code. Also, I wouldn't believe that carfax either. 2000 is the first entry, but the car was on the road 15 years before that was recorded. It could very easily have had 150k put on it in 15 years. That is only 10k a year which is nothing if it is a daily driver. New paint also screams high miles, especially when it looks as bad as that. Looks like a 150k mile car. The interior is pretty dirty on the floor, reminds me of a high miles car.

EDIT: I noticed the carfax says it has a TPI motor. That isn't even possible in an '85. Just goes to show you how inacurate carfax is.

 

UMM....Hello!!! 85 was the first year of the TPI!!!

 

The car was painted so your comment about the headlight inlets and the front grille is wrong. They where just painted. I have the original Iroc and it does not say Camaro on that grille, it says Z/28

 

Humm, my 85 IROC says Camaro. Not that anything is impossible with GM, but I've never seen an IROC-style grill (which accomodates the fogs) that read Z28.

JamesC

 

Wow, maybe I am wrong i will check again.

 

Oops, your right. I was thinking of the 350 that didn't come out till '87 with the TPI. Still, carfax won't tell you if it is an IROC or not. The only way is to get the RPO codes.


*The foglight grill either says Camaro in white lettering, or has a red bowtie in the middle.

 

Are you talking about all years or just the 85? I know for afact that I have seen Z/28 on that front grille. And I have never seen them in color. They are the same color black as the whole grille, but just raised like braile.

 

Bottom line about this whole post: The car seems to have a few shady aspects about it. It was repainted, and the milage is not acurate, there is no way it has only 50 sumthing K miles on it. You can find a stock, TTop, all original, same milage Iroc or Z/28, for the same price. Get a 350!! Keep looking.
On another note, I can sell you mine for $4000. Its an all original, White with red int. Original paint. No accidents, 305 TPI. New on car: flowmaster cat back, new cat, new rear susp: springs, panhard, tourque arm, struts, lower control arms, repainted rear with por15. New fuel pump, full tune up, cap, rotor, fuel filter, wires, plugs, fluids, MSD6AL, TTop weatherstripping, a few other things too....I don't really wanna sell, thats why the price is a lil high!

 

There was NEVER one that said Z28 on it and you must have some ragged out Camaro's around you because they ALL had paint on them. This is what they look like when they aren't beat down.

White/Silver lettering on the camaro:


and Red on the bow tie:


Here is the parts and illustration that shows all the avalible grills. Click on the link and you will see:
http://www.deadbird.org/pnc/c05.asp

 

The "Camaro" grill is 85 to perhaps 89 (mine has silver lettering). The "BowTie" grill was perhaps 90-92. Z28 grill is something absolutely new to me. I may have seen a plate attached to the grill with Z28, but never the grill itself.

JamesC

I don't have a front view, but here's my 85 IROC--the stripes and door decal are correct. Note that the rocker in 85 read Z28. At this point the IROC was simply an option.

 

Rocker. By the way, if you're wondering, the 5.7 decal reflects the new motor, not the LG4 that came stock with the car.

JamesC

 

You know what???? I am in NY so we need front plates. Its the plate frame that says Z/28!!

 

lol

All things considered, if you're looking for a Camaro, this may be the one for you (but not for $2000). If you're looking for an IROC, keep looking...

 

ah so it still could be a Z28, I'm pretty sure the miles are correct on it though. It wouldnt be in such solid shape with PA's weather. I'm going to have my dad look it over he has an eye for stuff.

 

if the motor is original it HAS to be a Z28 because you could only get a tpi in a Z28, you couldnt get in in an rs or sport coupe.

 

For a garaged 57K mile car its rather beat. These engines last forever so low mileage on a non-stock car isn't worth more. If it were factory paint without any damage then I'd say thats a great find- but $2K for that isn't worth it when you consider how much time/money you'll spend on body work and repairs.

 

lets see... needs cat, radiator, and paint on the front ground effect, 56k mi, tpi, and 2G's....i say GET IT!!! that looks like a damn good car for 2000. around here that would be going for 3+. it maynot be an iroc but a z28 is just as good really.

EDIT: wait a minute... does the car supposedly need a cat to run or does it run currently just with a bad cat?

 

oh it runs, and it runs good sure the road was wet but the guy spun the tires almost all the way up the hill in front of his house. I took it for a drive and it seemed to pull pretty hard. I'm not sure why everyone is saying it needs a lot of repairs and is pretty beat. The interior is a little dirty but its hardly worn at all and with what I could see of the underbody it looked pretty rust free and solid. I plan on getting it up on a lift to take a look at the underside.

 

Mlanzo, please think before criticizing me. Thank you. By me saying the foglight bit was wrong, i was saying it was repainted.

 

Don't be so sensative! Its a post!

 

The computer in this car is a fully functional one, with the capability of saving trouble codes when they occur. The on board computer doesn't have to be OBD II to have the capability to save trouble codes.

 

?????WHAT??????

 

My cavalier is OBD I and it saves trouble codes?

 

Yup....the OBD I should save it. The light goes out, but the code is still saved in the computer. If he checks it when the light goes out the code should come up. It'll get erased if you pull the battery though

 

So whats the differance between OBD1 and 2?

 

400 miles in 4 years?? that sounds fishy to me.. wait a sec, the odometer is lower in the pic than the carfax report...


CARFAX found no inconsistent odometer readings in the mileage history of this 1985 CHEVROLET CAMARO (1G1FP87F8FN117487).

Date: Mileage:
05/11/2000 57,500
09/28/2004 57,900


the odometer says 57,494 !!

 

lol wow i didnt even notice that