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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Gauge Pics.

ummm i need some close up pics of 140 mph and 145 mph Trans Am gauges i bought some new glow gauges that are 140 and for some reason there off iono y and i want to compare. thanks guys heres a pic of my new gauges.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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wow those look sweet. let me know how it goes cause i might wanna get some too.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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there great im loving them its just gettin them to be right but thats a problem with alot of gauges everything else is right just the speedo is a lil off.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:38 PM
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Re: Gauge Pics.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by demonbird
ummm i need some close up pics of 140 mph and 145 mph Trans Am gauges[/qoute]
There are no 145mph 'bird gauges I've ever seen.

.... there off iono y and i want ...
Maybe I'm getting old but... what language is this ?

I have these overlays.. aside from them not making an 8k tachometer overlay... they are very nice..





Yes, they are bad pictures...




The gauge overlays (the set I own) are accurate.. I had to correct my speedo by driving through a speed survey zone a few times.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:08 AM
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using stock lighting or LED's?
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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LED's for the needle lighting.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:01 AM
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Pic from a video I took one night cruising home,
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:06 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Here is a scan of a 140 Mph Speedo:

If your speedo is off you may not have the needle in the correct position (as obvious as that sounds). If you notice on the original one I scanned there are threee little notches close to the Zero point, you may have to re-align it to the correct one. I do not think the aftermarket ones have the notches...

I know for the tach its easy, you just zero it on 0 and asway you go, but I think because of the discrepencies of the speedo they had to put some sort of reference so that they could adjust it if need be.

What I would do is put in your gages, and leaver the clear panel and the trim panel off, put the cluster in the car and drive at exactly 60 mph, get on the highway and time it between mile markers. 1 min = 60 mph, and adjust it accrodingly.

John
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Hypothetically speaking lets say i had the 85 mph gauge cluster. and also hypothetically speaking if i reeeeealy liked those gauges. anyone know where i can get them or do i have to swap over to 140??

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 10:56 AM
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step up to technology and get a gps unit , i got one and its perfect for speed and correcting a speedo if you needed it to check that .
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Where did you get those? I really like them, not that it matters now that I am going to tear the car apart and junk it....
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
they are really cheep I got mine for about $20 for the set from http://www.procarparts.com

I just looked I thought they had more options, tho.

John
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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This may be a stupid question, but does anyone make those overlays the the 82-84 style Trans Am gauges?
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
I do not think so as I do not think they were back lit...

John
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Originally posted by 18inchboyds
step up to technology and get a gps unit , i got one and its perfect for speed and correcting a speedo if you needed it to check that .
GPS unit, I did not know they were available... where can you get one?

John
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by okfoz
I do not think so as I do not think they were back lit...

John
Correct, they were not backlit....but I wasnt sure if anybody made the. Oh well, thats what I get for owning early thirdgens.
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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To bad their camaro set only has an 85 mph speedo!
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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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okfoz i love the sarcasm . totally love it , but its sweet , and good for like getting the mph on a gas rc car.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
woooooow I think you really lost me...

But then again after much though I think I finally understand your GPS comment...

I was thinking you were talking about a GPS controlled Speedometer unit... Which on the surface would seem to work perfectly fine until you no longer got a GPS signal (like in a tunnel, or under a bridge)... Its kind of like a "batteryless solar flashlight."

Sorry My only brothers brother is an idiot

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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How hard is it, and what is involved in swappin over to a 140mph gauge>???
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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annnnd, is it just a matter of taking out the old gauges and putting these in?? is there any wiring involoved b/c i would rather not deal iwht wiring but im familiar with taking apart the dash...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
FIND a 86-92 Fromula, Trans Am or GTA with the 140 Speedo.

Basically you can swap everything over, your original Odometer will work..


I could probably do it from start to finish in about an hour.

On a scale of 1-10
-Difficulty its a 2
-Time its a 2
- Number of screws to remove from dash - about 20

Tools you need:
#2 screwdriver - some models some years
7mm nut driver - definately
5.5mm nut driver - some years used these to mount the IP assy to dash.
10mm nut driver - probably do not need, but get it any way.

REmove dash pad
remove lower RH trim piece ( has "performance suspension" emblem on it)
remove lower dash trim piece on LH side (it houses the driving light switch
remove the 2 screws from under the IP trim piece (between column and radio pod)
remove several screws from the underside of dash pad for the IP
REmove 1 screw from RH side
Remove 7 or so screws from IP assy
disassemble IP assy,

NOTE: It might be possible to leave the dash pad on
When you remove the IP from dash, unscrew the tilt steering lever as it may interfere with disassembly. AND lower the steering wheel to its lowest position.



Good luck take your time, do not break anything

John

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
no wiring needed, plug & play unless you have a cable driven speedo with the idiot lights.... then its not worth it. and MUCH more difficult.

John
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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sorry to keep askin dumb questions but how do i kno if i have a cable driven speedo?? I have an 86 Trans Am WS6
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by 1-MEAN-T/A
sorry to keep askin dumb questions but how do i kno if i have a cable driven speedo?? I have an 86 Trans Am WS6
86 would have an electronic speedo. You would need a cluster like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMESE%3AIT
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Old Oct 24, 2005 | 08:20 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
From 82-85 cable driven speedo
86-92 Electronic speedo (with gages)
86 - ? Cable speedo with idiot lites...

John
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