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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I've been here (or did anything to my project car). I am looking into getting back on some kind of track with my camaro.

Here's the problem. 1.5 years ago I finished sandblasting the underbody of my car (had to lie under it the entire time) and coated everything blasted (as best as I could) with Picklex 20, which is a phosphoric acid type metal treatment. I then started painting some areas with Zero Rust. I just looked this year and in few places I have rust coming back right through the paint. This was extremely depression.

So now I am trying to come up with a new plan of attack and was thinking that it might be a good idea to just acid dip the entire car (it is already a shell and nothing else). Does anyone have any experience with this? Is this a doable option? Anyone have prices? How would you find a shop that would do this?

-- Dennis
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Old May 24, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

TriggerGTA on here dipped his car, do a serch on his name.. I am looing to do the same with my 92Z.. Best bet is to just call the Auto restorers in your area, asking on here is a good bet too!

From what i have read, it could be anywhere from about $500 to $1500... I'm actually trying to find somewere near me that can do it now.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

i was going to but for $1,200 on a nice rust free body it was pointless.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Originally Posted by Kandied91z
i was going to but for $1,200 on a nice rust free body it was pointless.
Yeah if it's rust free then not much point.. i have minor rust in a lot of hard to reach areas.. i just want to get rid of it all and start fresh..

Do you have any thoughts on how to re-coat the hard to reach areas to prevent future rusting? I mean like inside the frame rails & rocker panels, behing the rear quarter panels etc?

I was thinking about expanding foam but not sure if that would actually keep moisture out or not?

Cheers,
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Old May 25, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

I had a hood dipped years ago & had a hard time priming & paining hard to reach areas of the inner structure. I am curious how you could prevent rust on bare metal of inner structure after dipping....not like you could spray inside double wall steel or frame rails. When these cars were built they were dipped in different tanks of rust preventative to treat these areas. I would be interested in what a restoration shop would do. As for myself, I would consider a rotiserie (especially if you have stripped car to shell) and rotate on its side. I stripped floor pans & rear frame rails on a '67 camaro, primed and painted it on my back & will never consider this job without a rotiserie. If you elect not to acid dip, you may consider sand blasting, immediately followed by a zinc chromate or self etching primer. I would next get a good quality paintable automotive seam sealer and seal all the seams followed by a high quality catalized paint (see your local automotive paint vendor & spray it with paint gun). I have a freind that has been using catalized spray on truck bedliner for floors and such and seems to like it...he claims it cuts down on road noise as well. Hope my .02 is helpful.
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Old May 25, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

http://www.por15.com/

http://www.rustcheck.com/
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Old May 25, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Also give this a try. Its great stuff.

www.rustbullet.com
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Originally Posted by Kandied91z
i was going to but for $1,200 on a nice rust free body it was pointless.
1200 seems like a high price. when i did mine it was only 800. turned out to be just 200 more than the cost of sandblasting. i think your right. if its rust free then its pointless
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Originally Posted by VILeninDM
Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I've been here (or did anything to my project car). I am looking into getting back on some kind of track with my camaro.

Here's the problem. 1.5 years ago I finished sandblasting the underbody of my car (had to lie under it the entire time) and coated everything blasted (as best as I could) with Picklex 20, which is a phosphoric acid type metal treatment. I then started painting some areas with Zero Rust. I just looked this year and in few places I have rust coming back right through the paint. This was extremely depression.

So now I am trying to come up with a new plan of attack and was thinking that it might be a good idea to just acid dip the entire car (it is already a shell and nothing else). Does anyone have any experience with this? Is this a doable option? Anyone have prices? How would you find a shop that would do this?

-- Dennis
as said above i did mine and there is a link someplace.

i was happy with the results. i had the shell done and then primed 2 days later. so far no rust has returned in the seems or on the body. i found my shop from just asking around a few car clubs. turns out it was in Toronto and are well knowen for doing cars
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Old May 27, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Re: Is acid dipping a realistic option?

Trigger, what did you do about the exposed bits of metal that you cant get to with a spray gun? Inside rockers, behind quarters, inside frame rails?

Cheers,
Richard.
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