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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Best way to fix this?...

A guy i know you does some body work told me that the best way to repair this would be a fiberglass hole repair kit what do you guys think? And i can't port a pic becuase it sias they are "invalid" but here is my photo bucket site..
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh8/thefury_z28/ its the last three pics is where the problem is. Also i think my hood is warped becuase it does not line up properly
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

the hood being warped is a possibility especially if it has ever been stored with the hood open, they are incredibly heavy.

as for the body there, i think the best thing for it is some fibreglass repair. it's going to take a lot of building it up to fix that though. what happened there anyway?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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I think that person shouldn't be doing bodywork. Looks like it's time for outer wheel houses and quarter skins.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

That looks too far gone for glass, or a patch panel really. Do you plan on keeping the car? I hate to say it but I think it would be cheaper to find a good body than replace quarter panels. How solid are the bottoms of the doors, rockers, and fenders?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Also, that hood is not warped. It's not heavy (depending on the year, could be fiberglass), and it won't warp from being stored in an open position. The headlight mounting panel needs adjusted up (a lot), and the hood latch and bumpers down (a little).
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

The hood is badley rusted so im getting a new one (2" fiberglass cowl). I dont know what happened in the rear but that is all the rust i chipped off what i could and the rest is metal with surface rust, i think i could do a pretty good job with fiberglass on that hole. My other weel well has a hole in the same spot but its smaller and i didnt want take a pic of it becuase my sled was right beside it. I went through my whole body and tapped it with a plastic mallet and it all sounds good except for parts on the drivers side door (filler). Tommorow im going to go get some sand paper and the bondo fiberglass sheet repair kit and some primer before i go to work for 3 weeks. I'm going to be painting the car my self when i'm done all the body work.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Originally Posted by bigal91z
That looks too far gone for glass, or a patch panel really. Do you plan on keeping the car? I hate to say it but I think it would be cheaper to find a good body than replace quarter panels. How solid are the bottoms of the doors, rockers, and fenders?
Fenders rockers and doors are good, the only problem is around the rear weels...
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:39 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Trust me, you can't fix rust with fiberglass. It will not hold and will look like poo-poo after a short period of time.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:44 PM
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Damn.. lol i dont want to take it to a shop ive never replaced a quarter panel..
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Could i use a small patch peice like just the wheel flare and weld tack it on?? or would it warp the metal too much? i really want to try to do this myself becuase i dont have like $1500 collars to spend on body work im only 19 haha.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Originally Posted by creepingdeath
Damn.. lol i dont want to take it to a shop ive never replaced a quarter panel..
And unless your car is valuable either in a monetary sense or a keep sake sense you can get a rust free roller for a few hundie.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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ya but the rest of the body is good so why would i get another car and trash my current one?
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

It can be done one of several ways.
-Make the inner and outer patches yourself (need to be really good at metalwork)
-Cut what you need from a donor body and weld that in.
-Buy an outer wheel house and quarter skin, then cut what you need from it.
-Same as above, but weld in the whole skin.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Any kind of patchwork you do there will be temporary. It may last 6 months or 2 years. It looks like too much is gone for fiberglass. It would probably crack or pop out. A new quarter would cost you too much. I think the best for you would be to cut out the rusted area and make a patch from a piece of sheet metal, and weld it in. Or use a metal bonding adhesive. You can probably adjust the hood a little and make it line up better. Move the fenders a little in or out. Possibly use some body shims too.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Originally Posted by creepingdeath
ya but the rest of the body is good so why would i get another car and trash my current one?
It's up to you, metal and body work are not my cup of tea. If you have the tools and the experience to do it then go for it.
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Originally Posted by bigal91z
Any kind of patchwork you do there will be temporary. It may last 6 months or 2 years. It looks like too much is gone for fiberglass. It would probably crack or pop out. A new quarter would cost you too much. I think the best for you would be to cut out the rusted area and make a patch from a piece of sheet metal, and weld it in. Or use a metal bonding adhesive. You can probably adjust the hood a little and make it line up better. Move the fenders a little in or out. Possibly use some body shims too.
IMHO too much work, these cars are still a dime a dozen if you know where to look.

Last edited by 82 Iron Duke; Jan 7, 2008 at 09:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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IMHO too much work, these cars ar still a dime a dozen if you know where to look.[/QUOTE]

I agree.
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Old Jan 7, 2008 | 09:43 PM
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Re: Best way to fix this?...

Id personally cut the section from a donor car and weld it in, or cut the section from a brand new 1/4 skin and weld it in.
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