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Old Nov 28, 2019 | 11:01 AM
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Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?


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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 01:10 AM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Looks like an MR2 spoiler, or something equally as bad.


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Old Nov 29, 2019 | 10:31 AM
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That looks terrible. You can see that the stock spoiler is still on the car.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 05:50 AM
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smh at the indignities to which some 3rd gens have been subjected over the years. If one were to peel that black vinyl "bug guard" off the nose of that IROC, he'd find no paint left under it.
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Old Nov 30, 2019 | 08:52 PM
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I hope it no longer exists
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Old Dec 1, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by dmccain
I hope it no longer exists
I agree.

I wonder if the OP likes the look of it?
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 08:53 AM
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I asked for an answer, not a string of smart *** comments. thanks. I remember when this forum wasn't a much of trolls 15 years ago
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 09:39 AM
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Sounds like we have a snowflake among us.
And talking about "15 years ago" when he joined last month and has 2 whole posts as of this writing.
SMH...
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by T.L.
Sounds like we have a snowflake among us.
And talking about "15 years ago" when he joined last month and has 2 whole posts as of this writing.
SMH...

no a “snow flake” just a person asking a question. Not asking people’s opinions sport
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 10:13 AM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

This is a discussion forum. You asked about an ugly spoiler, we're discussing the ugly spoiler. What more could you ask for?

Would you rather no one said anything until you track one down, drill holes, bolt it on, and take it to a cruise night to show off - only to find out everyone hates it?
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 12:14 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by Drew
This is a discussion forum. You asked about an ugly spoiler, we're discussing the ugly spoiler. What more could you ask for?

Would you rather no one said anything until you track one down, drill holes, bolt it on, and take it to a cruise night to show off - only to find out everyone hates it?
LOL
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew
This is a discussion forum. You asked about an ugly spoiler, we're discussing the ugly spoiler. What more could you ask for?

Would you rather no one said anything until you track one down, drill holes, bolt it on, and take it to a cruise night to show off - only to find out everyone hates it?
Clearly you also don’t listen I didn’t ask your opinion on what the spoiler looks like I asked if it exists anymore
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Seriously, I generally only lurk here, but c'mon man, the guy asked if anybody knew if the spoiler still existed....he did NOT ask for anyone's unsolicited opinion, aren't we better than that, "discussion board" or not?
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by toomanybirds
Seriously, I generally only lurk here, but c'mon man, the guy asked if anybody knew if the spoiler still existed....he did NOT ask for anyone's unsolicited opinion, aren't we better than that, "discussion board" or not?

at least someone isn’t a child. Lol thank you
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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Opinions don't have to be asked for. Quit your hypersensitive whining...
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by T.L.
Opinions don't have to be asked for. Quit your hypersensitive whining...
This is not an opinion for him this is for adults that answer questions not for people that act like children
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:01 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Like it or not, people have opinions about appearance modifications. It's no big deal, and it's not going to change any time soon. If you like it, who cares? If you're going to cry yourself to sleep at night if anyone doesn't like it, it's better to hear it now than later. Sorry you don't have a sense of humor about it.

I gave you a serious answer, it looks like something that's not intended for a thirdgen. Tossing junkyard spoilers onto thirdgens was common in the mid-late 90s. Maybe if you had a better picture, or more information....
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Drew
Like it or not, people have opinions about appearance modifications. It's no big deal, and it's not going to change any time soon. If you like it, who cares? If you're going to cry yourself to sleep at night if anyone doesn't like it, it's better to hear it now than later. Sorry you don't have a sense of humor about it.

I gave you a serious answer, it looks like something that's not intended for a thirdgen. Tossing junkyard spoilers onto thirdgens was common in the mid-late 90s. Maybe if you had a better picture, or more information....

again I didn’t ask for anyones opinion on the spoiler I don’t give a ****. I asked a serious question which wasn’t how do you like it. That spoiler was 499$ at the time so no it’s not a junkyard spoiler. With that I’ll leave this thread. Clearly this site has become a bunch of trolling kids.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:18 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by James Alexander
again I didn’t ask for anyones opinion on the spoiler I don’t give a ****. I asked a serious question which wasn’t how do you like it. That spoiler was 499$ at the time so no it’s not a junkyard spoiler. With that I’ll leave this thread. Clearly this site has become a bunch of trolling kids.
Obviously.

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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:19 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Is it maybe this one ?

old for sale ad - https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...g-spoiler.html








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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:21 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

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Is it maybe this one ?

old for sale ad - https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...g-spoiler.html





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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by WildCard600
Is it maybe this one ?

old for sale ad - https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/exte...g-spoiler.html








thank you very much
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 07:14 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

I wonder what it would look like in wind tunnel testing , it looks to have a very steep angle of attack compared to the stock wing on my Bird .....

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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 07:45 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by OrangeBird
I wonder what it would look like in wind tunnel testing , it looks to have a very steep angle of attack compared to the stock wing on my Bird .....
Rednecks aren't concerned with stuff like that...
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 10:53 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

While I like the pedestal spoilers look, I doubt it does anything useful.
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Old Dec 5, 2019 | 11:48 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

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While I like the pedestal spoilers look, I doubt it does anything useful.

It doesn't take much.





Not to compare a nearly 40 year old design to a modern supercar one, the Porsche wind tunnel pic shows what effect even a small wing/spoiler/air foil can actually do.

I would be interested in a third gen wing tunnel smoke test shootout to see what does what and how well. For science.
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 12:01 AM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

The Porsche spoiler is nowhere near the pedestal.

The pedestal is straight, no lip, and doesn't have enough gap underneath it for flow.

The 85-90 whale tale is way more effective. The pedestal was for style.
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 12:53 AM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

I don't really feel like digging it out, but there are books with photos and details of the early thirdgen development that show the 1982 spoilers (both Trans Am and Z28) being developed and tested in a wind tunnel. The early aerodynamic treatments were functional, later the focus on function sorta went away, but the early stuff was functional.

Originally Posted by OrangeBird
I wonder what it would look like in wind tunnel testing
You mean the high angle cheddar wedge thing that's subject of this thread? Pretty sure it'd still look like *** in a wind tunnel. Well, smokey ***... But I digress.
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 02:00 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by Thirdgen89GTA
The Porsche spoiler is nowhere near the pedestal.

The pedestal is straight, no lip, and doesn't have enough gap underneath it for flow.

The 85-90 whale tale is way more effective. The pedestal was for style.
The information available seems to disagree with you.


Originally Posted by Drew
I don't really feel like digging it out, but there are books with photos and details of the early thirdgen development that show the 1982 spoilers (both Trans Am and Z28) being developed and tested in a wind tunnel. The early aerodynamic treatments were functional, later the focus on function sorta went away, but the early stuff was functional.
Hey, there is no need to be cluttering up this thread with facts. How dare you.

I think I have the book you are talking about on the way. High Performance Firebirds 1982-1988 ? I remember you mentioning it in a post long ago in another spoiler thread and this got me thinking about it again so I ordered a copy. I'll see if I can post the pictures once it arrives, unless you beat me to it.
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 02:17 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by WildCard600
I think I have the book you are talking about on the way. High Performance Firebirds 1982-1988 ? I remember you mentioning it in a post long ago in another spoiler thread and this got me thinking about it again so I ordered a copy. I'll see if I can post the pictures once it arrives, unless you beat me to it.[
That one and I think there's more in Camaro - The Third Generation too. The 'High Performance Firebirds 1982-1988' book is a collection of magazine articles reprinted at a later date, one of the articles goes into detail about developing the spoilers, as well as the sealed Firebird grille like the block-offs used in 83/84 on some Trans Ams, and so forth. The gains are debatable, and marginal on the street, but it's still interesting to see that GM was really trying to take advantage of aerodynamics, drag, etc.
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Old Dec 6, 2019 | 06:49 PM
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OMG!!!😂😂😂 I’m still laughing. Awesomely fitting quote from my favorite saga. Bravo
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Old Dec 8, 2019 | 02:22 PM
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Everyone is going to bi*ch about the spoiler, but not mention the Daytona hood? SMH...
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Old Dec 8, 2019 | 03:56 PM
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Re: Does anybody know if this spoiler still exists ?

Originally Posted by TireSmokin'
Everyone is going to bi*ch about the spoiler, but not mention the Daytona hood? SMH...
I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm desensitized to the "D" hood. I've seen so many on trashed cars with corn crib, Farm Truck 350 swaps with no air cleaner, that my brain just automatically filters them out of photos. But yeah, they're so hideous they attract the same crowd that would appreciate the spoiler.
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Well, whatever you think of that spoiler and Daytona hood, having one, without the other on your 3rd gen, does not complete the look.
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