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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:33 PM
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:26 PM
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Nice setup.
Word of caution in advance, be prepeared to turn your rotors after about every other or every third AutoX event running the EBC greenstuff pads. They are notorious for pad buildup on the rotor surface and giving that warped rotor/pulsing pedal feeling.

I am sh*t canning mine real soon and going to try some Hawks HPS or some Porterfeild custom ordered compounds for street use on my calipers. I don't have alsot of options with the SL-6 calipers, but I am not going to use EBC's anymore. 2nd application I have tried them and the same results both times.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Dean what pads do the SL-6's use? I know coleman has a ton of diffrent compounds, and brands for most of the aftermarket and race caliper pad sizes.
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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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I can get racing compounds all day long from many different manufacturers in all the different racing compounds. Its the streetable quiet noisefree pads that are the trouble finding.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:17 AM
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let me know if you find a good pad for street use

rant: i bought timken bearings, and the outer carrier is PLASTIC! screw that, back they go tomorrow
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Car: '88 Iroc, '91 RS, and a '70 RS
Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
Originally posted by KagA152
let me know if you find a good pad for street use

rant: i bought timken bearings, and the outer carrier is PLASTIC! screw that, back they go tomorrow
I hear Hawk HPS pads are good, I have a set waiting to go on my Silverado..

Set 34s come like that, Set 3 (for 1LE rotors, etc.) are steel. I know SKF bearings are all steel so you may go with that one.

Ed

PS: Looks great!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Car: 91 Formula WS6 (Black, T-Tops)
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Transmission: Built '97 T56, Pro 5.0, CF-DF
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Sure does!!!!

Impressice as all h3ll.....
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Old Oct 15, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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you had z06 brakes like me right , if you did hows the difference between the wilwoods and the z06 . I might switch to them too. but i dont know . how much for the swap .
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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And coil overs too!
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Car: 1991 Trans Am
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Transmission: T-56
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Originally posted by 18inchboyds
you had z06 brakes like me right , if you did hows the difference between the wilwoods and the z06 . I might switch to them too. but i dont know . how much for the swap .
i had ls1s. no motor right now, so the car isnt going anywhere to test them, maybe in a couple of weeks

heres the run down
Hubs and brackets by ed (with arp studs) $185
Calipers $115x2
Rotors $67.79x2
Pads $65
Earls Hoses $13x2
90* Fitting for caliper $6.75x2
Line Fittings $5.16x2
$665.40, i also had ed mod the spindles, but that was over a year ago when i did the ls1s and dont recall what that cost

ed, what part number are the studs? i need to get the knurl diameter and i dont have my dial caliper at home. the holes in the rotor are too small
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Old Oct 16, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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From: Fort Mill, SC, USA
Car: '88 Iroc, '91 RS, and a '70 RS
Engine: 5.7 TPI; 5.0 TBI; ZZ4/T56 on the ag
Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
CRAP! I forgot to tell you that. The knurl diameter on those studs is .568" so it'll be more than that:

9/16" = .5625"
37/64" = .578"
19/32" = .593"
39/64" = .609"
5/8" =.625"

...can't recall the PN right now but it's a LONG knurl too, long enough to come thru the hub face a bit. I'd go about .593" and see how that goes.

Ed

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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 04:42 AM
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ed i have the z06 brakes on mine, how much would it cost for me to put the wilwoods on ?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Transmission: A4, A4, slated to be a T56
Did I get back to you on these? If not, LMK...

Ed
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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Hey Ed,
I'm curious now. How does the SL-6 caliper compare to the Z06 caliper? What bracket is it mounted to? C5 or C4HDs? THx.
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Eds Wilwwod calipers pictured above in his kit are the FSL (Forged Superlites) that are 4 pistons, not the SL-6 . I have the SL-6 on the setup I built. The SL-6 (6 piston) wilwood calipers are a radial mount (which means they can be shimmed diameter wise as well as offset wise. The GM C6 calipers have 6 separate mini pads that fgit inside the caliper to help prevent pad taper cmmon on forged calipers and the design helps prevent caliper spread. The C6 however are heavier than SL-6 and the SL-6 is stronger being billet with support bolts for anti spead & quickchange pads. The C^ is a great factory caliper for semi-mass production manufacturing, but still does not compare to good old machined billet calipers that are more expensive to make and stronger.

All are pretty much overkill for your average street only car that will not see high brake temps under track conditions
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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So how much does the FSL or SL-6 caliper cost. Looked on Wilwood's site and it looks about $250. Is that one or a pair?
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Old Nov 23, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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The FSL calipers are about $125 each. The SL-6 calipers are about $430 each.
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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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2 questions...

How does the FSL caliper compare to the C5 Z06 caliper.

Does the FSL caliper come with it's own bracket or would I use a C5 bracket?

Thx

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Old Nov 25, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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the fsl caliper is 4 piston, 1.75 each, fixed caliper, it mounts right to the bracket that mounts to the spindle

the c5 is a 2 pistons, floating caliper, it uses a carrier that mounts to the bracket

check out this thread
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hlight=wilwood
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