As I'm rebuilding my 85 T/A(WS6) I noticed my front rotors are pretty much toast and am looking to replace them(and wheel bearings) with something a step above stock.
Any recommendations that aren't too crazy expensive?

 

Anyone have any input on these and will the factory caliper/pads, bearings, and lug nuts fit them?
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pwr-ar-8213xpr

 

If you're looking for something better than stock, I'd recommend just moving up to LS1 brakes. If you do the majority of the modification yourself it won't cost too much to do.

Lots of good info here: https://lukeskaff.com/projects/car/t...brake-upgrade/

The cheapest way I can think of getting there.

1. Get some used calipers\carriers, rebuild if necessary (Classifieds, eBay, salvage yards, etc.)
2. Obtain pads, rotors, and bolts (I'd personally go new, but, sometimes you can get rotors with the calipers).
3. Modify your stock spindles - https://lukeskaff.com/projects/car/t...-modification/
4. Make new hubs from your old rotors (machine shops can potentially do this for pretty cheap, too) or purchase new ones - https://bigbrakeupgrade.com/product/...nversion-hubs/
5. Make or purchase conversion brackets - https://bigbrakeupgrade.com/product/...brackets-copy/

Note: I can't remember if you need to use the LS1 flex hoses or if you reuse your existing ones. So, you may need to change those. I'd recommend just going with a steel braid.

If I missed anything, the lukeskaff.com website should fill it in.

 

Thanks Jorlain, I'll keep that in mind when I'm ready to do a full(and proper) brake upgrade. But for now I have way too much left to do on the car and need something a little more plug and play...yet preferably a little step above the AC/delco(stock style) rotors.

 

Look at the Powerstop line at Rock Auto.

 

Thanks NoE, coincidentally I've been looking at these from PowerStop:
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/pwr-ar-8213xpr

But I'm not sure if they use the same(stock) wheel bearings and studs?!?

 

If they are for your car, then YES, stock bearings and studs. Bolt-on replacement, just drilled & slotted and coated.
What year is your car? I put in 87 Camaro. Cheaper from Rock Auto.

 

RA also has the Durago kit with coated rotors and ceramic pads (not drilled & slotted). $83.79
I have this kit set aside for my Toyota Camry. The quality looks really decent.
Go here to save an additional 5% off: https://www.retailmenot.com/view/rockauto.com

 

Thanks a bunch NoE!
I have an 85 T/A WS6 w/all four disk and posi.

 

You're welcome.
Just make sure to put YOUR car in at RA so you get the correct parts.

 

Brakemotive on e Bay is same as power stop's bottom tier and usually a bit cheaper.
If you go LS1 fronts you can reuse your 3rd gen hoses.
If you do any thing more than just Street driving do the LS1 front brake swap now and then your done.

 

I put these on wifes car in 2015, daily driver, still no rust. pretty impressive. not sure if they are available for our 3rd gens.

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=1441477&jsn=7

 

Another vote for Power Stop - good quality and slightly improved performance.

I recommend Timken bearings and grease seals.

 

Thanks! I see alot of different bearings at Summit for my car. I've never replaced the wheel bearings and have no idea what to look for. Do you have any recommendations?

 

Timken SET 6 and SET 34.

 

Thanks Davey. Is one the inner and the other outer?
And do you know if they'd work with the race that comes installed on the powerstop rotors?
Which brake pads did you go with? I see on Summits site they say Powerstop pads won't work with cars having a J65 RPO (performance brake) code?!? I called Summit and Powerstop but neither could give me an answer.

 

Correct- one is the inner and one is the outer bearing so you'll need 2 of each. Yes, the bearings work fine with the races already installed in the Powerstop rotors.

I went with the Z23 rotor and ceramic pad kit for my '89 IROC. Not sure what's available for your car offhand.

 

Thanks! Do you have the stock single piston caliper or dual?
And which flexible brake lines do you recommend?

 

My car has single piston calipers.

I used AC Delco hoses (2 front, 3 rear) and have had no issues.

 

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Rear disc brakes on an 85 TA are J65, but not "Performance Package," so pads for yours are likely to be listed as "Except Performance Package." "Performance Package" came a few years later, and here on TGO it's often referred to as, dare I say it for fear that it could cause some wet panties, or worse, "1LE" brakes. That's not to say your rear brakes haven't been upgraded, but if your rear calipers match the front calipers, then yours have not been upgraded and use 154 front and 202 rear pads.

HOWEVER, for all intents and purposes, 154 and 202 are the SAME: same size, same shape, same fit. BUT there's a clip on the inner 154s that must be detached to use 154s on the rear, and there are some pretty holes in the friction material of the 202s, which matter not. Some manufacturers don't have holes in their 202 pads. And some manufacturers don't even offer 202s, offering only 154s for front and rear, Power Stop being one of those. So if you want factory-style 202 pads, then go with an OE replacement, such as AC Delco, Raybestos, Wagner, Bosch.

Sounds like Davey has Power Stop Z23-154 Carbon Ceramic "low dust" pads, which is its midgrade pad--154 being for our brakes. PS' top-of-the-line pad for us is Z26-154 Carbon Fiber Ceramic, also "low dust." And pictured below is PS' base/lowest dust pad, Z16-154 Ceramic, shown with the clip detached for use on the rear:



Not sure how Davey likes his Z23 pads, but I've used them on my truck, and I was not impressed: dustier than my stock pads, and didn't hold up well, structurally. I never installed the Z16 pads, pictured above. Z17 is the same Z16 pad, but in a "kit" with the appropriate replacement hardware.

 

I've only had them on for a few months, but no problems so far.

 

Thanks LAFireBoyd, it sounds like I'll be just fine then....fortunately as I just hit the submit order button them prior to reading your reply! ;-)