I'm not really looking for what people think is the best... but I want to know what brands were and still are really good.

I know in the 80's a pair of Infinity home stereo speakers could be as much as my car... but now you can get a pair of their speakers for a few hundred at Best Buy.

Rockford Fosgate was great in the early/mid 90's, but they also have copped out to the "use the name to sell crappy stuff" motto.

And Sony... well, I'll just say XPlod. You know what I mean.


My dad said that Pioneer and Alpine (even some Audiovox!) was really great back in the 70's-80's... but now those seem to be mostly Wal*Mart brands (I know there is high end stuff, but for the most part)


So, my question is, what brands still care about their quality as much as they did?

 

Hmmm...

Phoenix gold... wait, they merged with Rockford...

ah!!

Pyramid.... They have always sucked and have done a very good job of maintaining that status.

I guess the most stable would have to be either JL audio, JBL or JVC.

Kenwood seems to have maintained some range of stability as well.

 

just so you know you can still get infinity home audio speakers that sell for like$ 10,000 and up..

and mtx quality is consistant i think

 

Well, it's good to know that Infinity still makes some good stuff!

I'm just sick of audio companies lying about wattages and such (ok, not lying, using a different scale ) I want to buy something and have it be what it says!!!!

 

McIntosh would be my best bet....still cant afford it though

 

JL, mb quart and alpine would get my votes...

 

Focal is among the best too, but it is expensive

 

focal
dynaudio
CDT
zapco
brax
helix
mcintosh
us amps
JBL-not the greatest quality but has been around forever

there are many quality products out there for a decent price...but for elite quality products you really have to pay

 

good: mcintosh, eclipse, harmon, xtant, paradigm, b&w, nad

crap: legacy, pyle, pyramid, and imo pioneer

 

sony subs hit like hell but there amps keep to there name

 

?

ever heard a real sub properly installed?

 

Dollar for dollar you can't beat a Pioneer HU.

But, to the point of the post, even Pioneer isn't what they where.

 

i like kickers stuff. seems to be good quality to me. always has been too.

 

ya kickers stuff has been pretty good over the years...their new L7s are super ugly though...IMO they spent way too much money on developing a new look for the sub and not enough on its performance

the only thing that has changed on its specs is the sensitivity is up 0.5db

 

JL audio's quality has gotten MUCH BETTER from what i gather, all my friends used to have problems with the stuff, and now it is a good brand.



adam

 

definately JL (holy pounding subs batman), alpine, precision power (although I havent used any of their newer stuff), focal.. all the stuff Im using

 

how's that...performance with the new cone will actually help, plus they get a smaller version of the Solo X motor..??
The looks of the cone will help cone flex under high pressure situations....performance will be the same if not louder, and sensativity changes with enclosure types anyways...I wouldn't use that to dertemine if a sub is good or not.
The feedback from the show is that dealers and reps love the new look...and I am finding about a 80/20 split, 20% dis-liking them.

 

it just looks too ***** too me...chrome and blue means **** IMO. I guess there is a huge market for the "****" type look so if i was in the industry i might go that route too to make money i just wont be spending any of my cash on it.

 

LOVE my MX-406 been FLAWLESS for 4+ years :lala:

 

well, about 80% of the other worlds population love them and have placed many orders for them...so you get a mix when you make changes. The added hue of blue is to match the lineup of the Sx amps, a common of the industry.

And I hate to tell you this, but if you buy any car audio, you are in the industry.
And you don't have to buy it...there will be many others that will.

I guess if you want to spend cash somehwere, motor upgrades would work.

PSS, I'm sure Alma Gates (great friend of mine) would love your comments about brand bashing. very mature...

 

Aaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! That's great!

Anyway, I love Kicker components. My bro always used them back in the 90's and had good luck (two 15" Kicker subs in a VW bug ), I think they make high quality products from entry level to serious competition. I've been VERY pleased with any Kicker product I've ever owned.

 

im sure you'll have good sales with the product...im simply saying i wont be buying any of the new L7 line.

i dont see how you consider it product bashing when i stated numerous times that it was my personal opinion. I never claimed to do any studies on the new L7s and say they were crap.

 

and you are more than welcome to your opinion, all I was stating as if something is shiney doesn't make it crap...if so we would all have black rims.
And maybe the product bashing confused me when you stated:
it just looks too ***** too me...chrome and blue means **** IMO. I guess there is a huge market for the "****" type look so if i was in the industry i might go that route too to make money i just wont be spending any of my cash on it

Don't know, maybe it was just me that ready it that way............:lala:

 

Man, nobody's a Pioneer fan around here? Well, I've been happy with them since '94... go figure. Sure, Walmart sells them; so what?

 

Basically, just buy your components by price. Spend $400 on a 4-channel amp, and if that amp has a well-known brand name on it, then you know you're getting quality.

Spend $100 on a 4-channel amp... and expect to be buying another amp after a few months.