Dumb questions about wiring 2 amps
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Dumb questions about wiring 2 amps
I am running the wiring for 2 amps in my car right now. I am trying to figure out the best least complicated way. It seems like buying the interconnects, wire, fuse holders, and all that is more expensive than buying 2 PG kits?
Here is what I'm looking at
2 rca interconnects $15
2 8 gauge power wires $?
2 Fuse holders $25
1 Dist Block $?
The only thing is the phoenix golds come with other wire I don't really need, like speaker wire. I wind up paying $70 for two kits but get lots of wire I don't need. Lowest I've found so far is $64 for two shipped, not too bad to do it right I guess.
Here is what I'm looking at
2 rca interconnects $15
2 8 gauge power wires $?
2 Fuse holders $25
1 Dist Block $?
The only thing is the phoenix golds come with other wire I don't really need, like speaker wire. I wind up paying $70 for two kits but get lots of wire I don't need. Lowest I've found so far is $64 for two shipped, not too bad to do it right I guess.
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Least complicated way is one 4 gauge run to the back of the car, with one single fuse holder near the battery. When the 8 gauge gets to the back of the car, that's where you set up a fused distribution block that turns the 4 gauge into two 8 gauge outputs. For grounding the amps, you can just use regular black 8 gauge to the frame (no real need for a distribution block there.)
And I guess, technically, you don't need a fused distribution block as long as your amps have fuse holders built onto them.
And I know people argue with me on this next point
but in my opinion, and from actual stereos I've heard, spending $15 for a set of preamp cables is going to guarantee some background noise in your system. You really don't want to buy the cheapest wires you can... they're the foundation of all your expensive equipment. Think of a professional athlete trying to run in flip-flops instead of sneakers!
And I guess, technically, you don't need a fused distribution block as long as your amps have fuse holders built onto them.
And I know people argue with me on this next point
but in my opinion, and from actual stereos I've heard, spending $15 for a set of preamp cables is going to guarantee some background noise in your system. You really don't want to buy the cheapest wires you can... they're the foundation of all your expensive equipment. Think of a professional athlete trying to run in flip-flops instead of sneakers! Thread Starter
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Hrmm......
I like the idea of 1 wire to the back, but the looking at the cost of fused dist blocks to me it seems like it's still cheaper to buy 2 PG kits @ 30 bux each. Figure $10 for a 4ga fuse, 10-20 for a fused dist block. Wire is a rip off.
I agree about the RCA cables, however I don't think brand matters for crap, just that they are decent gauge and well shielded. The rca cables I was pricing weren't super junk ones, maybe not the best, but they were phoenix gold's arx 340, decent wire I thought, but yeah i could step it up. I just have a problem paying for names, it's all copper inside.
Well I did some more looking, here's what I came up with.
1 inline 4ga fuse holder $7.95
1 Fused dist block 4ga>2x8ga $15.95
10ft 4ga $13.50
2 Phoenix Gold 500 Interconnects $27.90
$65.30
I have some 8ga RF wire to go from dist to amps and amps to ground I guess I could reuse.
Already up to more than 2 kits, this doesn't include remote wire, speaker wire, or fuses or freakin shipping! Me thinks some things must be grossly overpriced individually. I think I'll just have to do some legwork at work, find out where we buy our wire, I can get it at cost. I'm just a lazy guy, a few extra bucks for having it right away I don't mind but these prices are ridiculous.
That was all from sounddomain. Partsexpress is about the same pricewise. There has to be someplace cheaper to get some of this stuff?
I like the idea of 1 wire to the back, but the looking at the cost of fused dist blocks to me it seems like it's still cheaper to buy 2 PG kits @ 30 bux each. Figure $10 for a 4ga fuse, 10-20 for a fused dist block. Wire is a rip off.
I agree about the RCA cables, however I don't think brand matters for crap, just that they are decent gauge and well shielded. The rca cables I was pricing weren't super junk ones, maybe not the best, but they were phoenix gold's arx 340, decent wire I thought, but yeah i could step it up. I just have a problem paying for names, it's all copper inside.
Well I did some more looking, here's what I came up with.
1 inline 4ga fuse holder $7.95
1 Fused dist block 4ga>2x8ga $15.95
10ft 4ga $13.50
2 Phoenix Gold 500 Interconnects $27.90
$65.30
I have some 8ga RF wire to go from dist to amps and amps to ground I guess I could reuse.
Already up to more than 2 kits, this doesn't include remote wire, speaker wire, or fuses or freakin shipping! Me thinks some things must be grossly overpriced individually. I think I'll just have to do some legwork at work, find out where we buy our wire, I can get it at cost. I'm just a lazy guy, a few extra bucks for having it right away I don't mind but these prices are ridiculous.
That was all from sounddomain. Partsexpress is about the same pricewise. There has to be someplace cheaper to get some of this stuff?
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Originally posted by auxout
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I agree about the RCA cables, however I don't think brand matters for crap, just that they are decent gauge and well shielded. The rca cables I was pricing weren't super junk ones, maybe not the best, but they were phoenix gold's arx 340, decent wire I thought, but yeah i could step it up. I just have a problem paying for names, it's all copper inside.
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I agree about the RCA cables, however I don't think brand matters for crap, just that they are decent gauge and well shielded. The rca cables I was pricing weren't super junk ones, maybe not the best, but they were phoenix gold's arx 340, decent wire I thought, but yeah i could step it up. I just have a problem paying for names, it's all copper inside.
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Originally posted by 92droptop
You're not quite 100% correct on this one. While all of the cables are copper inside, it's the quality of the copper that is used. Rather it's the amount of other impurities that is in the metal. If you were to compare cheap *** wires, to say top of the line monster, while the shielding of each is drastically different so is the composition of the wire found inside. The top of the line wires are almost pure copper which has less resistance than wire with impurities in it, and therefore provides a clearer signal
You're not quite 100% correct on this one. While all of the cables are copper inside, it's the quality of the copper that is used. Rather it's the amount of other impurities that is in the metal. If you were to compare cheap *** wires, to say top of the line monster, while the shielding of each is drastically different so is the composition of the wire found inside. The top of the line wires are almost pure copper which has less resistance than wire with impurities in it, and therefore provides a clearer signal
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Originally posted by Sitting Bull
We discussed this about 2 weeks ago and that is nonsense. Wire is wire. Period. Unless it is obviously flimsy or falling apart you won't hear the slightest difference.
We discussed this about 2 weeks ago and that is nonsense. Wire is wire. Period. Unless it is obviously flimsy or falling apart you won't hear the slightest difference.
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First of all wire is not just wire. and if you believe that, then its pointless arguing with you. Different types of wires have different resistances. The higher the resistance in the wire the greater the signal loss over a given distance.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
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Originally posted by 92droptop
First of all wire is not just wire. and if you believe that, then its pointless arguing with you. Different types of wires have different resistances. The higher the resistance in the wire the greater the signal loss over a given distance.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
First of all wire is not just wire. and if you believe that, then its pointless arguing with you. Different types of wires have different resistances. The higher the resistance in the wire the greater the signal loss over a given distance.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
But go ahead and spend lots of money if it makes you more confident about your gear. It is pretty to look at.
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Originally posted by 92droptop
First of all wire is not just wire. and if you believe that, then its pointless arguing with you. Different types of wires have different resistances. The higher the resistance in the wire the greater the signal loss over a given distance.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
First of all wire is not just wire. and if you believe that, then its pointless arguing with you. Different types of wires have different resistances. The higher the resistance in the wire the greater the signal loss over a given distance.
I never said that YOU would be able to HEAR a difference. All i'm saying is that there is a physical difference between the two wires. A lot of it depends on your equipment. There is a difference between a $50 amp and a $10,000 amp. While you may not be able to appreciate the sound quality between the two, there are people out there who can, and do. That was my point.
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