I just picked up an `85 WS-6 HO T/A 5-peed w/ a 3.73 disc brake rear. It's pretty well loaded with everything, including the wrong carb. I also picked up an `87 T/A, low HP plane jane 5 speed car at the same time. It has what appears to be an original carb in it. Can I place the `87 carb on my `85 ? I see the wiring looks to be the same, will it work correctly ? Thanks for the help everyone.

Chris

P.S. I'm also looking for a reaonably priced L69 air cleaner assembly. Is there such a thing (reasonably priced) ?

 

if it's not the original carb..what is it?

 

I'm not sure what carb it is, I didn't write the numbers down. But it does not have anywhere for the computer to plug in. The plugs in the wiring harness are still there, just E-taped over right now. The carb currently on it has kinda been butchered, but it still works, somewhat. I was hoping to just swap carbs since the other carb looks to be in good shape.

Chris

 

It will work although it won't run as good as the original L69 carb would, if the 85 car still has its ECM hooked up and operating properly. Sounds like you might have a serious hack job or 2 on your hands though.

First thing to do would be to figure out if the ECM is there, and if it works; and then look at the dist and see if it's the computer-controlled type or not, and if so, whether it's hooked up right and works; and then try to determine how much of the rest of the car's control system has been butchered.

It really saddens me to hear of this happening to cars. So many cars get destroyed by people with dykes. It's a real shame.

 

Fortunatly, the only part of the car that's seen dykes is the stereo wiring. This is a computer controlled car, and yes the compis in and trying to work (getting code 41 right now). None of the wires were actually cut, they were just E-taped over. My thinking is since the rest of the wiring and related engine parts look to be the same, it should work fine ?????

I'm not going to worry about the code 41 untill I get it back to stock. I'll deal with the stereo wiring soon.

Chris

 

If the second carb has the electrical connections for the tps and m/c solenoid, you can install it and it will work if the electrical components inside it are functional.
Does the unmolested car run? If it does, I would be inclined to believe the carb is sevicable.
I would suggest getting the L69 Q-jet kit and installing it in the carb. I got mine from a local dealer for under 40 bucks. The kit comes with primary jets and primary & secondary metering rods and hanger for the secondary rods.
You will need a special tool to replace the jets, I got mine from the Mac tools man for 5 dollars (he wanted to sell me a new tool box
I have an extra air cleaner, but no extra ducting or scoops. PM me if you want details.
Ask anybody running the L69 air cleaner assembly, and they will tell you that the scoops are difficult to find.

 

One point I'm not sure of is if the Chevrolet L69 air cleaner is the same as the Pontiac unit.

How about it RB?

 

Only the driver's side. The passenger side is still available, and both ducts are available.

I'm still running the LG4 scoop on the driver's side. Not ideal, but it works. One of these days, I'm going to build up the scoop with duct tape so the duct fits securely on it. Hasn't been an issue, but should improve air temperature control.

 

I don't think so, at least not in all years. The L69 Pontiacs I can recall from their very young days had a single snorkel that went somewhere less effective than the Camaro ones; after all, Firebirds don't have the headlight place to collect cold air from. But somebody here posted a pic of a Firebird with one on it, so maybe some years had it or something. I can't see how it would work with no opening in the front of the fascia.

 

Does anyone have a picture of what the correct air cleaner look like ?

Chris

 

Here's a pic of the Camaro one. As you can see, it would dead end behind the front fascia in a Pontiac. I have no idea what one of these would look like in those cars.

 

the firebird one is a single snorkel but 82-84 has the functional cowel for extra air, which on flows better? i dont know but when im using two snorkels and my functional cowel...

 

Five7,
I must dis-agree with you on the availability of the R-side scoop,
it took me three days of calling dealers from Baltimore to Phoenix and Miami to Buffalo,I finally found one in Buffalo,NY. My local dealer tried accessing the parts network and gave me a list of dealers that might have had the part, When I finally found the scoop in Buffalo, I was a happy camper :lala: :lala:

Then again, maybe I called them in the wrong order

 

Well, I think I read that maybe one year the birds got the dual snorkle but maybe not. Anyway, mine has one now and seems to do pretty good, but I have only driven it a couple times since I got the car back together and am still working out slight bugs. Anyway the stock single snorkle on the firebirds goes to the same spot as the camaro. Those 2 vents on the front of a trans am hood have holes on the bottom(4 that are probably 3" inch diameter each, and then there is 1 that is probably 4 X 1-1.5 that is where the hood latch goes) that lead into the little area between the headlights. It also has some right above where the scoops are, but mine have rubber/plastic plugs in those. I imagine that they pull the air from that little "plenum" area. Also, there is still the crack between the hood and headlight right in front of the scoops which may also play a part. Anyway, I dont think it could do any worse than the stock single snorkle being as it was probably half the size of one of the L69 snorkles. I circled the spots that I mentioned. I dont know how much of a difference they make, but I do know that the drivers side snorkle is in the same spot that the origional LG4 snorkle was so they must have expected it to be supplied with air somehow.

Ben