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hey guys just a quick question... when i rebuilt my motor i went with an edelbrock performer EPS intake manifold. how ever all i hear on here is that the performer is no better then stock, well i have a question and that is how much HP do you think i picked up over stock and also would i see any type of a good gain switching to a performer RPM with the parts that i have listed. thanks
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most magazines show a 10-15hp gain
IN all honesty, you probably arent losing much. Would it be worth it? Hard to tell. I have seen people lose HP going from a stock intake to a Performer RPM. As mild is your combo is, you probably are cool with it.
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Look at my sig. That's using a Performer intake (not even the newer, better, EPS version) and it's on a VERY mild 350. I've taken the lower Performer intake into the 12s a few times.
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[i] I've taken the lower Performer intake into the 12s a few times. [/B]
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Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
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Originally posted by red85berlinetta
can a stock manifold get you into the 12's?
can a stock manifold get you into the 12's?
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Car: '89 IROC-Z
Engine: Canfield 195 headed 358ci
Transmission: TH350, Art Carr 9.5"
Axle/Gears: 3.92 Dana 44
I ran a Performer back in the day and my motor ran pretty darn good ...I switched to a RPM and noticed NO difference in the butt-dyno. I'd say the RPM is a little bit better, but its definately not worth buying a new one over your Performer (in my opinion)...
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Car: '85 IROC
Engine: LB9
Transmission: 700 R4
If you look at the Performer and the RPM side by side, you'll see that the RPM has a greater sectional area to the runners. That, and it's raised a bit to smooth out some of the corners.
The EPS intake has the cleaner flow path of the RPM with the smaller runners of the Performer.
I'm not sure where the Performer intake becomes the weak link. But I honestly believe that the Performer has some better flow than the stocker, in spite of being a stock replacement. And the EPS is an improvement over that.
There are some advantages to the smaller runner intakes but those benefits happen below 2500rpm.
The cam you're using is one that has some pretty nice low end by the looks of it and I'd think that the EPS would compliment that well.
I'll take that EPS off your hands, if you feel like you need to get rid of it though.
The EPS intake has the cleaner flow path of the RPM with the smaller runners of the Performer.
I'm not sure where the Performer intake becomes the weak link. But I honestly believe that the Performer has some better flow than the stocker, in spite of being a stock replacement. And the EPS is an improvement over that.
There are some advantages to the smaller runner intakes but those benefits happen below 2500rpm.
The cam you're using is one that has some pretty nice low end by the looks of it and I'd think that the EPS would compliment that well.
I'll take that EPS off your hands, if you feel like you need to get rid of it though.
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Car: 1988 IROC
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Originally posted by Damon
Look at my sig. That's using a Performer intake (not even the newer, better, EPS version) and it's on a VERY mild 350. I've taken the lower Performer intake into the 12s a few times.
Look at my sig. That's using a Performer intake (not even the newer, better, EPS version) and it's on a VERY mild 350. I've taken the lower Performer intake into the 12s a few times.
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Car: 1991 Camaro *RIP* 1984 MonteCarloSS 1972 Nova
Engine: 355 cid 383 cid
Transmission: TH350 TH350
Ive got the eps on my 355 and its a great intake. Ive also got a 1 inch carb spacers which pushed the rpm band up a little and gives it great powerband and ill tell you man this things got a low and mid range pull. Id much rather have this than an rpm on a daily driver!
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Car: '85 IROC
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Originally posted by Teal91rs
Ive got the eps on my 355 and its a great intake. Ive also got a 1 inch carb spacers which pushed the rpm band up a little and gives it great powerband and ill tell you man this things got a low and mid range pull. Id much rather have this than an rpm on a daily driver!
Ive got the eps on my 355 and its a great intake. Ive also got a 1 inch carb spacers which pushed the rpm band up a little and gives it great powerband and ill tell you man this things got a low and mid range pull. Id much rather have this than an rpm on a daily driver!
.... If you're still reading
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Car: 1991 Camaro *RIP* 1984 MonteCarloSS 1972 Nova
Engine: 355 cid 383 cid
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I bought this car the way it was unlike the nova i didnt build the motor so i would have no idea what it is. With the stuf the guy gave me with the car (bunch of carbs a few distirbs timeing gun power stearing pump starter ect) theres a 1' 4 hole that looks as if it came in pack with a open spacer. ive always worryed if i was looseing perfomance from a 4 hole is this true? MY pops not home so i have to burden you with the lame question
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Car: 88 Camaro IROC-Z
Engine: SBC 385
Transmission: 700 w/ manual valvebody & 2400 TCI
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt B&W w/ 3.70s
Kinda off topic...
Whats up Chris...I thought that was your car up there!
Anyways, just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about you wanting those headers...come March or April I will be rebuilding my tranny and getting some bigger headers so you can have them then, if you still want.
Let me know!
Oh, and don't worry about that EPS, untill you put a REAL motor in that car
Anyways, just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about you wanting those headers...come March or April I will be rebuilding my tranny and getting some bigger headers so you can have them then, if you still want.
Let me know!
Oh, and don't worry about that EPS, untill you put a REAL motor in that car
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: LS1/LQ4
Transmission: 4L60E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
http://www.nhra.com/2004/events/race...ults/stk.html?
Bottom of the page, winner Jody Lang, '81 Malibu wagon. Runs 12.38 @ 101 mph.
That's a M/SA Stock 305. It must run a factory manifold.
You can make them fast, the only question is how much money you're going to spend getting there.
Bottom of the page, winner Jody Lang, '81 Malibu wagon. Runs 12.38 @ 101 mph.
That's a M/SA Stock 305. It must run a factory manifold.
You can make them fast, the only question is how much money you're going to spend getting there.
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Car: 88 Camaro IROC-Z
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Transmission: 700 w/ manual valvebody & 2400 TCI
Axle/Gears: 9-bolt B&W w/ 3.70s
Yea, we all know that if you put enough $$ into any motor you can run 12s in it...but I know this dude and feel obligated to bust his chops!
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
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And that Malibu is hardly streetable.
My point was the intake doesn't hold you back until you've done a lot of other things.
My point was the intake doesn't hold you back until you've done a lot of other things.
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Originally posted by red85berlinetta
well damn why does everyone on here bash it and say it no better then stock...
well damn why does everyone on here bash it and say it no better then stock...
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