dark_daku89

hello everybody,

I am currently in the process of building my engine and I picked up a holley carb from my teacher for a good price. Being a 4165 (6210-3) carb, I was wondering if I could use the 20-121 700 r4 kickdown bracket and the 20-95 for the throttle (recommended for 4150/4160)

Thanks !

Chris

five7kid

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I'm putting the same carb on my Camaro, but hadn't gotten to that point yet. Comparing my 6210-3 to my 4150, it looks like they will work. The throttle arms are identical, so there shouldn't be a problem with the 20-121.

The distance from the mount bolt to the throttle arm also appears to be the same, so the 20-95 should work. The only issue is the 4150 base has a hole in front of the mount bolt hole for the tab to fit into, and the 6210-3 base doesn't have such a hole. You'll have to drill a hole for it. I'm going to be rebuilding mine, so that will be a good opportunity to do that. Although, I'm not sure yet whether you need that bracket if you've got the stock set-up. Maybe, to keep the orientations correct between cables & carb.

You posted right after I had placed an order with Summit. Rats! I was trying to think if I needed anything else, and didn't think of that. Guess I'll look for them locally. Don't want to pay another $10.95 order fee.

five7kid

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Curious if you've figured out what you're going to do about a choke. My intake doesn't have the boss to mount a divorced-style thermostat. I'll probably end up running a manual cable.

dark_daku89

well i dont think i will be running a choke now, but if i really need it i will get an electric choke kit. Hopefully they make electric choke kits for these carbs

dark_daku89

Here are some pics of my carb.

MY85Z28

I just put a 4165 on my 85. I took the old ccc qjet to the speed shop for comparison. I matched the holley studs. I attatched the throttle and TV cable. I did not hook up the cruise. very simple. I am sorry that i threw away the empty boxes w part numbers. The carb sits on B&M 144 supercharger. The divorced metal coil choke with work with this setup - I just have to make a longer arm. Good luck

five7kid

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Looks like your carb is missing the accelerator pumps. The rear one is 50cc.

I haven't looked hard, but an electric choke isn't as simple as it is on q-jets, universal Holleys, or Edelbrocks. The divorced style needs some place for the thermostat to mount. Non-EGR intakes typically have something that will work.

I suppose a bracket could be fabricated to mount the divorced thermostat.

VenomX-87

It is missing Idle mixture screws, accelerator pumps and a vac fitting off the metering block. Did you take them off or didn't it come with them?

five7kid

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It's 2-corner idle - no adjustment in the secondaries.

The driver's side (U.S.) primary adjust is mostly hidden by the throttle arm, but it looks like the idle mixture screw is in there.

VenomX-87

It just confused me coz there are holes for them, Is that normal?

five7kid

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Yep. Cast in but not drilled & tapped.

Primary & secondary metering blocks are the same casting, made into one or the other during final machining. Saves money that way, don't you know.

dark_daku89

yeah i am missing the accelerator pumps, for both primary and secondary.

I will be getting them from my teacher as soon as he parts his carb out for me.

I will be running a non-egr intake, so how would you recommend running the divorced style choke?

dark_daku89

Does anyone have any recommendations on which throttle and kickdown brackets to use with the 4165 carb?
thanks

five7kid

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As stated earlier, the secondary accelerator pump is 50cc. The "normal" pump size is 30cc.

Some non-EGR intakes have a pad to mount a choke thermostat. If yours have it, you can either get a manual thermostat (uses heat from the crossover to open), or an electric conversion thermostat (the factory never made a divorced electric choke, but they are available from the aftermarket).

chilli

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Just to add my 2 cents, your worried about chokes and what not but the butterfly looks as if it's gone as well, dont think your gonna have to worry about a choke.

Fj5Race

Hello I just bought a holly 6210 from ebay but the front jets are not getting fuel can you please help me out? Thank you
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