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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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problems leaning out

i need to lean out my carb but when i went to do it with my buddy he said that we he wouldnt be able to becuase the seals were too tight and the carb would break if he tried to break the seals... any advice??
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Lean out under what conditions?

What kind of carb?
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Re: problems leaning out

its stock carg on the LG4. whenever i give it a little rev in nuetral, or even when i punch it, i get massive amounts of black smoke. it is pretty bad on startup too
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:49 PM
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Transmission: 700R4 with shift kit
Re: problems leaning out

Dose he mean the seals are sticking the carb togeather or to the intake? Try get some NULON carb cleaner then keep spraying the gasket that you want to remove, It will eat at the gasket and will make it easer to pry off.
But yeah what five7kid sais below make sure that the choke is opening.

EDIT: sry NULON is a Aussie brand (I think).
Just found this for you tho: http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...12742&D=312742

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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 10:53 PM
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Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Is this a U.S. car, or Canadian?

Assuming it's U.S., are you getting any SES light?

Is your choke operating properly?

Exactly what seals is your friend talking about?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Re: problems leaning out

ill figure that out and get back to you
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Re: problems leaning out

i am not getting any lights, and my buddy refered to the seal as a welsh plug, he said it was put there pretty much so people couldnt adjust the carb
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
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Re: problems leaning out

The welch plugs are removable, but they're probably not your problem.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Re: problems leaning out

do you know of any other seals that would give him any problems? i figure he should know what hes takling about, he is an automotive tech teacher, but you never know
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Re: problems leaning out

The plugs he's talking about are covering the idle mixture screws. To remove them, you need to make a couple of cuts in the base below each one with a hacksaw blade, and then use a punch or chisel to break away some material and remove the plugs.

Your problem doesn't sound like anything that messing with the idle mixture screws will solve, though. The plugs are there to prevent people from doing what your friend is suggesting, which is blindly fiddling with any obviously adjustable parts in an attempt to "fix" a problem. About the only time you should need to remove the plugs is when you're taking the carb apart for a rebuild, or when you've made drastic enough changes to the engine that the base settings need to be changed to bring things back within the range of computer control.

Is your choke working correctly? Is the mixture control solenoid operating? Are the well plugs in the base of the carb leaking?

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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Re: problems leaning out

from what i can see all is working correctly, and there arent any leaks around the carb. you think i will get less smoke if i change the spark plugs? the guy i got it from said they had just been changed, but the better spark may help?

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