hey ..

i might put my 91 camaro z28 up for sale in a couple months ..

its a 1991 Camaro Z28 convertible

305 TPI
5 speed manual
3.08 posi (stock)

new convertible top / fairly new tires

120,000 original miles (on body, trans, differential)

but i just built the original 305 ..

$3500 went the motor

including ..

trick flow vortec heads
edelbrock hi flow vortec intake
hooker 2055 headers
flowmaster 3" exhuast
comp cam (08-501-8)
taylor wires
bbk adjustable fuel regulator
zoom performance clutch
aluminum flat top pistons
crank turned .010"
slp runners
msd cap / rotor
new distributor
all new sensors
and more

also got the nordskog digital guage cluster ..

the motor / guage cluster has 760 miles since rebuild

what would this car be worth

and i was going to paint it and put on a cowl induction hood (black paint, red stripes, 6 coats of clear)

any ideas for a asking price if i do decide to sell it ..

 

I would say 5000-6000

 

thats about what i was thinking ..

i might sell it soon .. but im gonna try and get atleast $7000 out of it ..

i only paid $1500 for it .. and $3500 in the motor / dash .. so i only have $5000 in it .. and it is a fairly rare car .. there werent many 5 speed convertibles ..

ive seen a few on ebay for $8000 - $10,000 that are in a little nicer condition .. but were automatic 91 convertibles and dont have a newly built motor ..

 

these threads **** me off beyond words.

 

The "worth" of a car like this goes beyond what modifications and repairs you've put into it. You haven't really told us what the body is like, the current paint, etc. The interior is KEY when setting a stated value on a 3rd gen convertible because a lot of the parts are convertible specific. A few body panels/parts are convertible specific as well.

Post some pictures and give a more in depth examination of the car.

 

why would you want to sell?? i'm never selling and mine ,needs just about everthing. it's a daily driver in summer with 141,000 miles. i've only had it for 2 years now and i dont think anyone ever did any work to it.

 

i dont know if i want to sell it or not .. right now im thinking of all the money and work i'll have to put into it to finish it off ..

im 17 and in high school / college .. kinda thinking ahead here and wondering if it would be a good decission to sell all 3 of my cars and buy a good new one such as a 02' honda s2000 with around 30,000 miles .. theres alot around here for around 15k

my interior has normal wear.. some of the plastics are broken like the trim on the front of the convertible top .. and the dash pad .. and a small rip in the drivers seat .. other than that its a really nice interior ..

im going to tune it first and see what gas mileage i get and power comes out of it ..

the paint is good .. its been resprayed before .. and has some small chips in one or two places ..

i recon $6000 would be a good price since it kelly blue books for $4000 and i got over $3000 in the new motor, clutch, digital dash, and new seals in the differential

and it also has a new top and tires ..

and if nobody is willing to pay that much .. i only have $5000 in it .. im sure i can get that for it any day ..

 

KBB and NADA and any other value website like those two are worthless for 3rd gens. I can't tell you enough times not to listen to those sites when trying to figure out how much your car is worth. KBB says my car is worth $5,000 I think? I had it appraised by a professional and it has a stated value of $12,000.


Also what other 2 cars do you have? You might consider selling the other two and buying something cheap to drive every day. I don't know if you get a lot of snow where you're from, probably not since it's Georgia, but anyways, something FWD or 4WD/AWD would be great to have along with your Camaro. I bought a 4WD truck to daily drive so I could keep my Camaro and throw money at it whenever I feel like it and not have to worry about not having a car to drive. Just something to think about. A kid your age doesn't need a low mileage S2000. The insurance would kill you, and they're a bit more expensive to fix when something goes wrong.

 

i wish i could have the car i had when i was 17 and in high school. i had a 67 camaro,a 69 cougar xr-7, a 73 nova,and on and on. i agree with blue zee you dont need a s-2000(anyone can have that) be one of the rare ones with a nice 1991 Z vert.

 

ive been thinking about it .. i might as well keep this car and if i want more power later on .. i can allways swap the motor for a 350 block and keep all my upgrades .. and then maybe even slap on a supercharger ..

saw a s2000 pass by today .. kinda second thinking that thought .. lol .. looked like a hunk of $hit .. not counting the annoying buzzing sound .. i love the rumble my flowmaster has right now ..

my other two cars are a 89 toyota mr2 that is fully restored / race prepped (one of a kind willwood 12" brakes on the front and custom made coil overs)

i LOVED this car when i first got it ..its alot more rare than the camaro but is hell of alot more expensive (over $12K in it so far) ive basically built it from a shell and boxes of parts .. but i havent even drove it yet .. still putting the suspension back on after the new motor has been installed .. (got distracted from building the camaro)

and a 94 mini cooper (original body style, learned to drive stick in) .. dont really want this car anymore, have had WAY to many near death experiences in it, including one wreck .. too damn small ..

im thinking of keeping this camaro untill i tune and paint it .. i know that 91 vert's are pretty rare .. especially since i got a 5 spd from the factory ..

it was rough when i got it, has been hit in the front before and didnt fix it right .. but i take collision repair at college so i can fix all that there ..

neways ill keep thinking about it ..

know anywhere i could get a new plastic for the convertible top where it meets the windshield ..

 

dude you should keep the camaro im 19 and have had my 91 vert for almost a year now and i wont ever give it up, but i think you should sell the toyota when you finish it and put it into the camaro. as for the cooper.... keep it for the gas man just dont go crazy on it and kill yourself, maby sell it and get a little geo

friend drives a brand new camaro ss and has a rilly old peace of **** geo for winter and for the gas milage, lol their is a huge hole in the flore and about 2 inches of frozen water in the trunk

you will never get as many looks as you do when you dive your 91 than when you drive the s2000

 

yea .. your probably right .. the gas really doesnt bother me much .. heck i havent tuned it .. and running it hard i still get 18 mpg ..

i was driving to college this morning .. and i must say it was running DAMN GOOD (0to60 fast as hell, tires breaking loose going 35 ) .. im gonna tune it .. i think im missing all of my power from running a stock tune ..

as for the mr2 .. im gonna finish it .. if that is good .. ill use that and the camaro .. i dont really want to get rid of the mr2 .. ive been building that for almost a year now and its rare as hell .. would be a shame to let go of it even if it never ran .. haha ..

 

Keep the MR2 and sell the Mini Pooper.

 

Too many of you people WISH your car was worth more so you will it to be worth more.
You want to know what a car is worth, especially one that kbb isn't accurate on, look on ebay not autotrader.
Ebay is what the car actually sold for, not what some dreamer is asking for it on autotrader.
Here's the most recent TA that sold on there a couple days ago for $3800
T\A's generally bring more then camaro's so that should offset the fact you have a 5-speed if you think thats worth a little extra.

Draw your own conclusions for what you'd get for yours.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NO-RE...QQcmdZViewItem

Really the thing to do if you really want to sell it is put it on ebay or something. Then you'll find out what people are really willing to pay, because lets be honest, the best we can do is guess for you.
I think too many people rather hear about how their car is worth a lot then actually put it on a place like ebay were they might get a rude reality check.

 

I'm not really all too suprised that the Trans Am convertible in your link didn't go for more $.


1) it's a dealership car, people are a lot more wary of buying a car like this from a dealer because you have no records or papers on it. Even though it is true that a lot of dealers that come across 3rd gens ask a jacked up price, they seldom actually sell for that price because of the simple fact that it's a 3rd gen on a dealership lot. People would much rather buy one of these cars from an individual who has some history on the car.

2) they didn't bother to fix the broken tail light or the headlight that doesn't work

3) they didn't even bother to clean the engine bay, it shows that they don't really care all that much

 

talkin about lookin on ebay ...

ive seen about three (3) 1991 convertible z28's go for

$8000
$10,000
and $18,000

but ALL three were

automatic transmission
stock 305 tpi with around 120,000 miles ..

only difference in price was the condition the car was in ..

i'd say mine right now is in between the 8K one and the 10K one but once my body work is done and i get a new interior ill be up to the 18K one ...

but i dont thing a modified convertible that has been restored would be worth as much as the one that is in perfect ORIGINAL condition ..

so thats why right now i think mine is worth around $7000 tops but when i do the paint / interior i'd say i could grab atleast $9000 pretty easy for it

around here poeple will die to have a third gen camaro and most of them are junkers ..

but yes .. i agree that all any car is worth is what someone is willing to pay for it ..

 

That Black Trans Am is a piece of Junk, a broken tail light, Vinyl seats, they do not look like leather to me. The shifter **** is worn off, its worth about $3500 in my book with that kind of wear & deglect.

Ebay is a crappy way to tell what a car is worth. If you consider that serious people who really are in the know would not buy a car unseen & undriven are the vast majority. There are a few people out there who have had good luck on ebay bu me personally I would not touch a car listed there unless I was wanting to buy it for parts.



John

 

hey .. i just notice the air dam under the front of your cars .. haha ..

i was missing mine when i bought it .. so i built one out of a piece of sheet aluminum .. works like a charm compared to not having one ..

but i agree .. i wouldnt buy a car off of ebay b/c there is no way to check anything .. for all i know the tranny could be toast, wheel bearings whining, brakes worn, etc ..

 

I bet I can fix the minor little things from the one off ebay for less then the $8000 difference you guys want for your cars.

To each his own. I've been buying and selling on ebay for 8 years, I've gotten pretty good at figuring out whats good and what's not, who's got good feedback, whose trying to hide stuff by not taking many pics etc.


The car looks like an average 3rd gen with 120K miles.
If minor little things like a cracked tail light which can be replaced with one trip to the junkyard are major problems to you, then it's your choice to spend $12,000 instead.

I'm not fortunate enough to have that kind of cash for a tail light and shifter ****.

 

1) Good luck finding a Good set of those tail lights those are Very hard to come by and easily $500 in reasonably good condition.
2) THere is more to that car than appearances. The paint looks GREAT for a 120K Van Nuys car, I suspect a recent repaint.
3) The gas tank appears to be leaking... Or I cannot figure out what the fluid would be running down the car behind the back seats. I guess it could be Dif-Lube, but why is it there?
4) There is rust on the bottom of the doors, No Emblems, Cracked Center caps (probably due to a tire change)
5) Tires are wrong for WS6 wheels, Or the car does not have WS6, which in 1992 there were several Trans Am's out there with WS6 center caps without WS6 so its not that uncommon...

I am just skeptical of this one, it might be a really nice car BUT it did not go for that much so I suspect most people knew what they were looking at and did not bid.

John

 

I sold my POS 1991, 305, auto, rear drum, Z28 vert PROJECT car TODAY for $3100.
I wanted to do the project but my wife made me sell it. (don't ya'll start in now)
It had bad paint and clear coat. a dent in the pass door w hanging, dented side mirror, scuffs on the rear fender lips, sagging top w brown/torn rear window,193000 miles, a failing torque converter, bad interior trim, many other little issues, but it did have a near perfect 1998 T/A grey leather interior that I put in.

I got many calls from CL and a sight unseen buyer from Canada paypaled the deposit the day after I listed it and picked it up today, with only my true description of the condition and the craigslist pics. (he said his cousin has a body shop so...)

I bought it 4 months ago, the same way. sellers description and CL. sent a deposit and picked it up a week later in California and trailered it home.

Your car could get $6k overnight if you are near a big city but I've also seen many verts take a long time to sell at the $5k-$6k price here in the Seattle area.

Listing the mods and problems and good pics make a big difference from a 2 line ad.

3rd gen birds are rarer then Zs but the body style isn't as attractive IMO.
(I do like the 4th gen birds though)

Personally, I only drive Z28s and Vettes and would never sell 1or 3 Chevys for a Honda.
I've driven MANY cars at the race track and I love TORQUE. I'm not remotely impressed w the S2000 I drove at Thunder Hill.
If you love you Z then keep it, if not, you can always find a fox bodied mustang. =P

 

awsome post ..

im sure my car could easily fetch $6000 today (if it was tuned) .. especially with the fresh motor, clutch, shocks, and theres more every day ..

ive been thinking and that is the only reason i cant see my self selling my z28 .. it may not be any highway drag three honk bull#hit winner, but it has soooooo much damn TORQUE ..

i love it, first think i said when i drove it for the first time was "DAMN this thing is fast" .. and everytime i take a friend out in it .. before i even hit 3500 rpm (far from my 5500 redline, which gets really good around 4500) i hear damn this thing is fast .. but then again they all drive civics, and jettas and all the other german and ricy 4cyl cars .. lol ..

the only reason i might sell my camaro vert, is b/c im in college and high school, i graduate in 3 months from high school and was thinking ahead for when i get a job (teacher at college allready has a couple guys wanting me,lol, what can i say, i can lay some paint .. i take collision repair) ..

neways .. i was thinking of getting a bmw z4, or a corvette, or possibly the s2000 ..

but the thought of insurance, and the s2000 having a little 4cyl that does less gas mileage than my camaro just kill the idea ..

idk .. im sure once i get this beast tuned ill be quiet happy with it, and keep it for many years, i also have a 89 supercharged mr2 which im almost done putting together, and im too much in love with that car to see either that or the camaro go ..

the mr2 has allready been restored and race prepped b/c the previous owner proffesionally drifts (paid out the a$$ for the car and it wasnt even put together, some what of a mistake) .. just need to get the camaro into that condition and ill have two really nice, and decently fast cars ..

 

 

I agree with thi.

Car pricing is differant from each area of the us & the world, a car that may be worth 10k where you live may only be worth 5k where I live at. Value is also what someone is willing to pay for a car.

I just sold my 89 RS Vert for 2k to my husband & I it was worth 3k (thats the money we put in to it including the new top we just had put on) But to my nephew who bought it it was worth only 2k since that is all he could afford.


at the same time if you took that car in to a dealership they would only give you maybe 2k but turn around & sell it for 4k. you never know it depends on the market.

 

well .. i bought another mr2 .. got a 91 mr2 turbo, and that damn thing is crazy fast and gets 30mpg ..

neways .. my camaro is / has been for sale for $6500 .. got about 3 people wanting it, and one guy that is getting a loan right now to come get it that has two other thirdgen camaros ..

 

I don't understand. I view this guy in GA wanting to sell his car as an opportunity. Granted, it's an opportunity for someone else but an opportunity just the same. Besides, when he sells it I am sure he will come back here and let us know what he got for it (right?!?).

For someone moving close to where he is, I am curious what it fetches.

 

yea ill be back and post up how much she goes for .. right now if the guy buys it then she will be going for $6000

thats with $5000 in reciepts for a brand new motor (305 tpi, vortec heads, hooker 2055's, comp cam, etc) , poly suspension bushings, short throw shifter, newish tires, newish top, nordskog digital dash, tuning equipment, etc

and its a 5spd from the factory .. iirc there arent many 91 z28 5spd camaros that were built ..

in my eyes, whoever gets it is getting a heck of a deal .. i almost dont want to sell it but i got a 91 mr2 turbo now and need it for the gas mileage for college and something that i dont have to restore / keep working on