IROCZ1989

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Holley just released these. 2,3 and 4 core. Anyone have one?

GeneralDisorder

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Since they are only available for pre-order, I would have to assume that no one here has had any useful experience with them.

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IROCZ1989

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Says they ship in sept. Maybe someone from Holley is on this board. You never know who scans the threads here. Worth a try. Looking for a radiator and dont want a champion.

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It looks promising. I might order one up with my ATech account and see what their about. I'm on my second plastic radiator in two years. The **** drain on these is unbelievably weak. I got a little hot and it blew out the threads. Made quite a mess of itself. Had to spend another $80 on a new radiator to get back on the road.

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VTSummit

I'm not sure if they make one for your car, but I have a Wizard in one of my cars and they were awesome to deal with and great quality.

IROCZ1989

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In terms of replacement radiators . Have you tried Northern radiators? I still have my factory unit. Never overheated on the supercharged 355 I had on stock system. Howe makes one too.

CHRISMAN2000

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Anybody ordered one yet?

cobb

Anybody?

Clements408

Has anyone installed this radiator? Looks like a direct fit (excluding thickness) for the height and width.

hotrodf1

Gonna bump this question back up ----
Has anyone tried the Frostbite setup yet?
Holley Frostbit on sale for $280

They say they have 3 rows of 3/4" tubes, core is 2.20" thick - which makes it actually different I believe than most of the offshore units that you find.

It's not as high priced as DeWitts or Ron Davis etc., but sounds to be better than the Champion / ebay type stuff.
I have some healthy cooling needs with the 78mm turbo and intercooler in front of the radiator. The original stocker actually did OK, but has sprung a leak after all these years!!

Reddragon88gta

Anyone try the frostbite yet? Curious about fit for my 88’ GTA. The cold case is nice being direct fit but still would like to know how frostbite install is.

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If you are going to get one and you want a true direct fit radiator - the only one I've found is the DeWitt's. The online vendors (including DeWitt's own site) don't always have the correct picture but here is a post with pics. As you can see the radiator has the upper and lower mounting tabs in order to use the factory style rubber mounting ears. They are also 100% USA made:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cool...-pictures.html

https://www.dewitts.com/products/1982-92-camaro

The 1249006A part number is black with the auto trans cooler. If you want stock appearance and the best quality and fit - this is the only option I know of.

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Reddragon88gta

I’ve heard those are great but really don’t want to spend nearly $600 for a car with a few bolt on mods, I was looking in the 200-350 range. The cold case looks like a near drop in as well. In your opinion is the aluminum worth the expense as opposed to the ac delco replacement which is over $200 on rockauto? It’d be nice to have the car run a little cooler and was also debating a 180 thermostat as well.

redneckjoe

While NOT a direct bolt in, these summit triple pass radiators work great,...especially for the money. For an automatic you will need a seperate transmission cooler. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...31-3/overview/

Reddragon88gta

Cold case is on sale right now too along with frostbite, really thinking of upgrading to aluminum radiator when I do water pump, t stat, and throttle body bypass.

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The DeWitt's comes with the trans cooler integrated. And it's an absolutely perfect factory style fit. No cutting of the mounts, etc.

Yeah it's not imported Chinese $hit so it's not cheap. I would Rather support a quality US manufacturer making exact fit products with a lifetime warranty.

And yeah - cold case is Chinese. And it doesn't look like nearly as good of a fit as the DeWitt's. Look at the upper seam area that slots into the rubber mounts. DeWitt's actually builds in an aluminum tab just for the mounting point.

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GeneralDisorder

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As far as ACDelco is concerned. Forget about them. For a 3rd gen it's just the same old rebranded Chinese garbage the other brands are filling their catalogs with. You may as well buy a spectra or CSF or whatever. Coming out of the same Indonesian factory.

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Reddragon88gta

Yeah the delco stuff is just rebranded typically but basic replacement is either that or spectra or other junk which might be worse. I was unaware that Dewitt came with a integrated Trans cooler...that is impressive. Thanks to all who replied

GeneralDisorder

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Where does it say that on their site? I couldn't find mention of origin and that typically means Asia.

3.8 of 5 on their Facebook reviews. Lots of problems being reported with fitment and leaking. In the last week someone has posted they have been sent three radiators and they all leak.... sounds like you get what you pay for.

Edit. Looked around more..... can't find a single reference to where they are made. I stand by my conclusion. I use a lot of aluminum radiators from Koyo, CSF, and Mishimoto for other vehicles and if it were US made (or Japan, or even Taiwan) they would be using that as marketing.

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GeneralDisorder

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Which is nice - but if you get three in a row that leak or fail..... really worth the effort to save a few bucks? Maybe they mean the box or the literature was made in the US. Or perhaps only part of their product line is US sourced. In today's market, if you have US based manufacturing, you would be stupid to not use that in your marketing. So IDK. I see poor reviews and a price that's right in-line with the Asian radiators that I buy all the time from other suppliers like Mishimoto (which has also had quality issues I might add) so I don't see how that's possible and keep production in the states.

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redneckjoe

My brother-in-law used to work for a company in philadelphia that made aluminum radiators,& intercoolers of all different shapes and sizes. He told me the boss had no problem selling tons of them and letting other companies put they're sticker/name on. Said they would test competitors radiators at times, & had seen a top name that was epoxied fall apart when they hit it with a mallet. Also told me his boss went over to china to see other production radiator companies. A bunch of woman working in a factory, laying rows, tubes, fins, on an art eisle looking fixture. It somehow all gets soldered in an oven. Needs to be at a precise degree for "x" amount of time. About the only thing TIG welded is the tanks, filler, and inlet/outlet.

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That's kind-of the problem with America isn't it? No one wants to support their fellow citizens in bringing manufacturing back to the US. China is purposefully selling products at a LOSS just to drive our manufacturing out of business. It's all well and good to want to export our intellectual property and our "culture" (such as that is), but we have a LOT of people in this country who aren't capable of entering the intellectual property industry, and they aren't going to be pop-stars either. So we NEED something for them to do other than smoke meth and steal the scrap metal from my shop. Also you gamble with that stuff - sure there's a lifetime warranty - just like an Autozone reman alternator or starter. And you may be the lucky guy that gets 3 bad radiators over a 5 year period and has to pay shipping both ways to service the "warranty" - well at least till the coporate entity restructures, files bankruptcy, or gets bought out and is unable to service your warranty or discontinues the product, etc.

IDK - we all drive old American cars built with largely American sourced parts and labor (Canada too) - and then you want to put cheap Chinese crap in there to save a few bucks today that in all likelyhood will be spent and more over the next few years due to product quality? Not for me. I'll spend the money today to save it tomorrow. I've seen too many of these "name brand" (Mishimoto is a great example - F*CK those A$$holes), radiators leak, or not cool well, and most fit like crap.

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GeneralDisorder

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It's not exactly an assumption. It's happening to people. Read the reviews for yourself on their Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/coldcase...=page_internal

LOTS of complaints. 3.8 out of 5? If a mechanic told you there was a 25% chance the radiator they installed would leak within the first year what would you think of the parts they are using?

I own a professional shop. I use only the best parts I can get for my customers and for my own projects.

Remember: Quality remains long after the price is forgotten.

I remember having this same discussion on the Optima battery thread. Their products are $hit also.

For a radiator "importer" all they really need to do is provide a 99% reliable product that actually fits and cools properly. And then handle that 1% crib death by overnighting a replacement to the customer with an apology and a gift card....... This doesn't seem like it would be that difficult but I'm sure the logistics are a nightmare of shipping damages, recycled Shlitz beer cans, and poorly trained Chinese school girls.

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