Recomend a Chip Emulator
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Recomend a Chip Emulator
Hey guys,
I have an 86 camaro 350 TPI with many mods including high compression, injectors, after market heads,exhaust, etc...
I'm looking for a good easy to use Chip Emulator. I want something i dont have to take out an reflash. Need to be a plug and play deal here.
So i live it to you guys to help me out and possibly refer me to some good write ups on the different product on the market and user reviews
I have an 86 camaro 350 TPI with many mods including high compression, injectors, after market heads,exhaust, etc...
I'm looking for a good easy to use Chip Emulator. I want something i dont have to take out an reflash. Need to be a plug and play deal here.
So i live it to you guys to help me out and possibly refer me to some good write ups on the different product on the market and user reviews
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
I use the Moates.net Ostrich 2.0, myself.
If you don't have any of the tuning cables/equipment, look at the AutoProm, since it has the datalogging cable built in as well.
If you don't have any of the tuning cables/equipment, look at the AutoProm, since it has the datalogging cable built in as well.
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Engine: 305 TPI R69/G92
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Axle/Gears: US Gear 3.42 Eaton True Trac
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From: Lower Burrell, Pa
Car: 86 Iroc-Z28 Camaro/84 BMW M Power
Engine: 350TPI/ S50
Transmission: t-5 five speed/ 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi/ 3.73LSD
Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
The auto prom catches my eye, Ive read up on it at moates website. I have a few questions about it though. How is the customer service and also does it come with its own software or is that something the I would need to buy seperately.
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
The customer service at Moates is some of the best I have ever experienced.
The Auto Prom comes with a licence for Tuner Pro RT, so you can download that and use the registration to get rid of the 10 second nag window. If you want you can download Tuner Pro RT now, and take a look at it, then when you buy the licence or AutoProm you can then register it. www.tunerpro.net
The Auto Prom comes with a licence for Tuner Pro RT, so you can download that and use the registration to get rid of the 10 second nag window. If you want you can download Tuner Pro RT now, and take a look at it, then when you buy the licence or AutoProm you can then register it. www.tunerpro.net
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Car: 91 Black Formula KR
Engine: 305 TPI R69/G92
Transmission: Astro A5-Pro 5.0-McCleod
Axle/Gears: US Gear 3.42 Eaton True Trac
Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
1 cable from EBL out to laptop...
vs.
APU1 cable from unit to ECM... Cable from unit to laptop... cable from unit to ALDL... plus... mount the unit...
both tune with Tuner RT...
Rafael
vs.
APU1 cable from unit to ECM... Cable from unit to laptop... cable from unit to ALDL... plus... mount the unit...
both tune with Tuner RT...
Rafael
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Engine: 350TPI/ S50
Transmission: t-5 five speed/ 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi/ 3.73LSD
Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
How is the tech support for EBL flash, i belive that tech support is important for these things. also does flash ebl have data logging capabilites?
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
If I was only doing one car for myself I'd probably go with the EBL. But I have several of my own projects plus another half dozen friends and family members cars that I tune, so I now use the Ostrich 2 and love it!
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Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi/ 3.73LSD
Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
So have you used both systems? With the ostich 2 you have the capability to tune multiple cars. How is that possible, can you use it to burn chips as well?
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
A ostrich emulator is not a chip burner it can be used on a multitude of ecm's gm , honda 4k-512K .bins
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
I agree if you are going to only use products to tune your tpi camaro I wold go sd the ebl flash P4. Bye the time you buy a apu1 and make or buy a usb to aldl cable you would are close to the cost of dynamic efi's ebl. And alot of the tuning work will be done for you.
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Car: 86 Iroc-Z28 Camaro/84 BMW M Power
Engine: 350TPI/ S50
Transmission: t-5 five speed/ 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.42 posi/ 3.73LSD
Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
The price diffrence was definetly why i looked to the ostrich system. but what your saying that Apu1 doesnt come with everything needed?
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
I agree if you are going to only use products to tune your tpi camaro I wold go sd the ebl flash P4. Bye the time you buy a apu1 and make or buy a usb to aldl cable you would are close to the cost of dynamic efi's ebl. And alot of the tuning work will be done for you.
I'm the same way as Punisher, I tune multiple vehicles, so I currently have a whole arsenal of tuning equipment, most I've used, some I haven't. I currently own 2 Ostrich 2.0s (one with BT and always stays in my car, the other for test bench and tuning purposes), an ALDU1/CABL1, 2 Socket Boosters, Burn2, Willem GQ-3X EPROM programmer, a home made serial ALDL cable, that I use on my test bench, a couple FOrd tuning pieces that I have never used, along with a couple Honda items I've never used, plus I have a TV II in my car for the time being to interface with the ALDL, but will be replacing that with a home made version, hopefully before the end of the year, if I can get my butt in gear, plus I have an APU1 on the way, since I want to try one out.
I do want to try out an EBL, but I just can't justify it with my current collection of tuning equipment.
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Re: Recomend a Chip Emulator
I was thinking the same thing six_shooter. "I do want to try out an EBL, but I just can't justify it with my current collection of tuning equipment." It would be a awesome ve master to test drive do a few learns and copy over to $8D.
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