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Old Jul 3, 2012 | 09:53 PM
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Unable to copy ign timing table

I'm in the process of switching bins using TunerProRT.
I can copy and save everything except the ign timing table.
I can copy the table, save the table, save the file, but when I re-open it, all the ign table values are back to prev.
Anyone else seen this before?
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Old Jul 4, 2012 | 06:13 AM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

Can you change each/any entry in the table manually by overwriting?
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Old Jul 4, 2012 | 06:20 AM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

When you copy a complete table to complete table they have to be identical. Not one from stock bin and one from extended table hacked bin etc....

That said when you do copy the new table in any numbers differant will be in red, then need to click the Commit Icon/Button to make changes then save bin before exiting.

Are you using Compare to see and copy new tables?
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Old Jul 4, 2012 | 11:44 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

Both bins have been hac'ed to allow WB02 to be included in datastream. Other than that, they are normal bins.
If I highlight all the cells and hit "copy from compare", all values turn red even the ones that are same number.
I am hitting commit then saving bin.
Tried "copy from compare" with only one row or column, no help.
Tried direct entry, no help.
I've also tried just changing one cell using the "fill with value" option, no help.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

Could be something with the XDF that the calculation value is incorrect causing nothing to update due to the error.
Check the conversion tab and see if the calculation is correct.
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Old Jul 5, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

Don't know if you found solution but I had similar problem. Turns out that in the spark chart I was trying to copy, one number was higher than the max set in code so none would copy. here is link to that post. https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...-tunerpro.html
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

I checked the xdf's conversion tab for the spark table.
It has " 0.351567 * X + 0.000000 " in the top left cell (and at the top of the screen). All the other cells are blank.
Is that correct?

None of the spark table values are higher than what a stock ARAP bin has.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 08:24 AM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

In the XDF editor dialog, General tab, see if the Use Low Range and/or Use High Range is selected. Then check what the low & high values are set too. This was causing another user the same issue.

The Use High Range value was lower then one or more of the values in the table being copied from.

RBob.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:06 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

Originally Posted by RBob
In the XDF editor dialog, General tab, see if the Use Low Range and/or Use High Range is selected. Then check what the low & high values are set too. This was causing another user the same issue.

The Use High Range value was lower then one or more of the values in the table being copied from.

RBob.
Thanks RBob for helping me with that one. I was pulling my hair out on that one. And it's probably ZZ's answer also.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:08 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

You nailed it RBob!!
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:22 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

So what XDF is causing the issue?
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 05:00 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

The one I downloaded from here:
http://www.tunerpro.net/downloadBinDefs.htm
The first one on the list.

Issue was resolved thx to RBob.

High value was set too low (43 degs).
I have a max value of 47 degs in my spark table (ARAP).
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Re: Unable to copy ign timing table

I'll be... mine too! Thought I knew TP fairly well and never used this feature. Pretty sweet seeing colors in table when they are set...
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