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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro rs
Engine: 5.0 TBI lo3 V8
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Car wont start...!!!!

OK i just bought the camaro from a used car dealership and for some reason the people who owned it before me put a starter switch/button in it and i was workin on the fuses yesterday and i changed out the bad ones but when i went to start in wouldn't. i put the key in and turned it and all the lights and heater came on but when i turned it more to start it everything turned off and nothing happened but when i let go the heater and lights came on but i pushed the starter button and the car started right up. i checked the fuses this morning and they are all in and everything, what could be the problem??
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:14 PM
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Car: 82 TA
Engine: Slighty built 350
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

sounds like the ignition switch took a dump. Or they spiced in the push button to that circuit
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro rs
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

well the ignition has been workin up til last night
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:20 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

so you could start it with the push button and by turning the ignition cylinder? Is this an auto or a manual. What year? Could the range switch at trans bee off or out of adjustment, if it has one. I would bet the ignition switch probably gave out on ya.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

its a 1990 camaro rs automatic, but i have to put the key in for the switch to work but before last night i never used the switch i used the ignition. if its the ignition switch how much will that cost me to fix??
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

does this have the resistor pellet in the key?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

is that the little black bump with a silver line in it right before the teeth by the top of the key??
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:28 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

That is a resistor. KOEO what does your security light do
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

um?? KOEO does not register with me lol sorry not much of a car guy
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

KEY ON ENGINE OFF
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:33 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

it comes on for a sec then turns off
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

then i would asume that the VATS system (the security antitheft system) is working properly. Still would point you towards testing that ignition switch
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

how do i test it?
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

at the switch. Yellow wire which will be terminal A on the connector should have B+ (battery positive 12 volts) when attempting to start. Just backprobe it with a testlight. It should light up nice n bright if it is working.
If that tests ok make sure that the tan and white wire pin terminal F at the trans selector switch also has B+ when attempting to start. If it doesn't that would indicate a problem with the starter relay. If that tests ok make sure that the purple wire pin terminal E at the trans switch has B+ when attempting to start. This is the wire that goes eventually to the starter. IF you have power on everything but pin E the problem would be in the trans switch. Also since you said you were messin with the fuses check the 3amp crank fuse in the fuseblock. Also check to see how the previous owner wired up the pushbutton. Maybee they were having trouble with it also.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

ok thanks il try that
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

see you updated your profile. How did you get a 5.0 ls1?????? Do you mean you have the 5.0 TBI lo3 motor.
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:15 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

o ya lol i was talkin to my recruiter last night and he was talkin about ls1's haha hold on i change that
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Old Dec 23, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

just keepin ya on ur toes. good luck with your starting issue
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Old Dec 25, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Re: Car wont start...!!!!

My 92 at times will not start, it is the KEY. when it gets wet from rain or sweat from being in my pocket the car will not start. this can be frustrating tell you figure it out. I keep a second set of keys in the car so when it will not start I pull out the 2nd set and she starts right up. I was going to get new keys but I am swapping in an LT1 this weekend hope to have it back on the road by FEB.

Ok I got off subject.
use an ohm meeter and see what the resistance is on your keys they should all be close to the same.
use one key and see if the car starts, when you turn on the car the security light on the dash will light up. try to start the car if the light stays on or comes back on, the problem is your key, do this with all your keys at the same time you may find out that you have one bad key. there are other threads here that will tell you how to bypass your VATS.
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