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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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fuse #15 HELP!

ok the other day when i was pulling the seats to clean i found fuse #15 which i didnt even know i was missing, anyhow i belive its something to do with the hatch and well i finally got around to popping it in and now the rear hatch is making a fairly loud buzzing sound that you can hear around and inside the car but its coming right around the hatch motor area. it never done this before and i tried pulling the fuse back out but no luck i didnt pull extremly hard but i didnt wanna break anything. i was afraid this would drain my battery so took off the negative cable and the buzzing stopped so i put it back on to see if it went away and well it came back. i dont know what to do know is this normal? help please! btw i put in the fuse when the engine was off but battery connected and when i installed i could see the electricity go thru the fuse but it never got really warm. HELP!

CLIFF NOTES, installed fuse 15, now making buzzing noise at hatch, what to do!
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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ok the other day when i was pulling the seats to clean i found fuse #15 which i didnt even know i was missing, anyhow i belive its something to do with the hatch and well i finally got around to popping it in and now the rear hatch is making a fairly loud buzzing sound that you can hear around and inside the car but its coming right around the hatch motor area. it never done this before and i tried pulling the fuse back out but no luck i didnt pull extremly hard but i didnt wanna break anything. i was afraid this would drain my battery so took off the negative cable and the buzzing stopped so i put it back on to see if it went away and well it came back. i dont know what to do know is this normal? help please! btw i put in the fuse when the engine was off but battery connected and when i installed i could see the electricity go thru the fuse but it never got really warm. HELP!

CLIFF NOTES, installed fuse 15, now making buzzing noise at hatch, what to do!
umm... pull it back out.. use some pliers if you need to... did you ever have function of the hatch motor, or is this how you purchased the vehicle?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:13 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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umm... pull it back out.. use some pliers if you need to... did you ever have function of the hatch motor, or is this how you purchased the vehicle?
see im not sure since im 13, my mother bought the car from which i believe was the 1st owner back in the early 90's and was sitting for years and years since around 98 tell early 09 so she wont remember at all. also the fuse box lid it wont latch on the fuse box so im not sure if thats anything that you needed to know.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

Originally Posted by iroc stangs
see im not sure since im 13, my mother bought the car from which i believe was the 1st owner back in the early 90's and was sitting for years and years since around 98 tell early 09 so she wont remember at all. also the fuse box lid it wont latch on the fuse box so im not sure if thats anything that you needed to know.
well most likely it never worked... fuse box lid, is common... I had pick one up from the wrecking yard... just go ahead and use some needle nose pliers and pull it back out... if you are a bit anxious about perhaps getting shocked, don't be, or better yet just disconnect the negative battery cable... remember positive juice wont' harm you as long as you don't ground it... this only applies to cars...
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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well most likely it never worked... fuse box lid, is common... I had pick one up from the wrecking yard... just go ahead and use some needle nose pliers and pull it back out... if you are a bit anxious about perhaps getting shocked, don't be, or better yet just disconnect the negative battery cable... remember positive juice wont' harm you as long as you don't ground it... this only applies to cars...
im trying figure out what the fuse actually does though as im not sure if it something that will help me that i just havent figured out though as its gonna be a daily driver and if its something that i'll need for the hatch. you dont think having the battery connected and putting the fuse in damaged anything do you? i'll try to figure out exactly what its for and then either pull it or see what im suppose to do. thank you though.
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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im trying figure out what the fuse actually does though as im not sure if it something that will help me that i just havent figured out though as its gonna be a daily driver and if its something that i'll need for the hatch. you dont think having the battery connected and putting the fuse in damaged anything do you? i'll try to figure out exactly what its for and then either pull it or see what im suppose to do. thank you though.

no not at all... the hatch motor is most likely toast, or I am not sure if there's a switch that needs replacing to shut the motor off...
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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no not at all... the hatch motor is most likely toast, or I am not sure if there's a switch that needs replacing to shut the motor off...
ok btw what is the purpose of the hatch motor anyhow i dont see the point as i can already fully close even without the fuse. and not sure if this is related but anyhow by the hatch motor and the light there is a little panel that there is a switch that goes back and forth is that for the light?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

yep that switch is for a light located next to it... the hatch motor is so you don't have to slam the hatch down... you just gently lower it and it latches, the motor then pulls it down and locks it...
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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yep that switch is for a light located next to it... the hatch motor is so you don't have to slam the hatch down... you just gently lower it and it latches, the motor then pulls it down and locks it...
ok so im guessing really nothing to important? how much are the motors incase i need a new one and if i wanna deal with replacing? how do you get to the light as it doesnt work do i have to pry the cover off with a flat screwdriver?
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

Originally Posted by iroc stangs
ok so im guessing really nothing to important? how much are the motors incase i need a new one and if i wanna deal with replacing? how do you get to the light as it doesnt work do i have to pry the cover off with a flat screwdriver?
yep... the motors, new, I don't know if they are available anymore, but probably something around 100-150...


Well I found a link ...
http://www.youngsfbody.com/HatchParts
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Old Mar 26, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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yep... the motors, new, I don't know if they are available anymore, but probably something around 100-150...


Well I found a link ...
http://www.youngsfbody.com/HatchParts
evermind on the motor lol thanks for helping me out though.
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:35 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

Originally Posted by iroc stangs
evermind on the motor lol thanks for helping me out though.
dont know if you are still looking for help with this or not, but that 15amp fuse is what allows power to reach your hatch, for the hatch motor and the light back there

from the sound of it your plastic gear in your hatch motor has stripped and its just letting the motor spin freely, good news is you wouldnt need a new motor because it is still spinning(from what i understand) you just need a plastic gear

plastic gears for hatch motors are 7 bucks from Top down solutions and about the same from Hawks

if you are mechanically inclined then it should be a fairly easy task, if not i would say just leave everything alone for now if the hatch already closes tight enough, pull the 15 fuse back out and leave it until you are ready to properly fix the hatch pull down unit

its a fairly simple unit to work on
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

also i just bought a hatch pull down uint(the whole thing) for $45 bucks from a member on here, even rebuilt ones that guys/gals on here have sell rather cheap
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

or you can go to a junkyard, i got one for $20
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Old Mar 30, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

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dont know if you are still looking for help with this or not, but that 15amp fuse is what allows power to reach your hatch, for the hatch motor and the light back there

from the sound of it your plastic gear in your hatch motor has stripped and its just letting the motor spin freely, good news is you wouldnt need a new motor because it is still spinning(from what i understand) you just need a plastic gear

plastic gears for hatch motors are 7 bucks from Top down solutions and about the same from Hawks

if you are mechanically inclined then it should be a fairly easy task, if not i would say just leave everything alone for now if the hatch already closes tight enough, pull the 15 fuse back out and leave it until you are ready to properly fix the hatch pull down unit

its a fairly simple unit to work on
ok i was question it because you can still hear the motor but it just doesnt shut up lol. i pulled the fuse out and maybe i'll look at it another time. thanks
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

Constant buzzing sounds like the motor is just fine. The gear may be broken or stripped and the motor is constantly trying to pull the hatch shut and trip the relay. Since the gear isnt engaging, it never trips and thus constantly runs. Pop the rear cover off (the big one) and take a gander at the pull down unit. With a bad gear/broken housing the whole unit will slide up and down by hand

See how bad it is
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

Originally Posted by evilemokid94
or you can go to a junkyard, i got one for $20
i wish i would have found one, i searched every junkyard in my area(and in the area i use to live in) for a month looking for a pull down unit, and every single thirdgen was already stripped of them, it would be a full camaro/bird sitting there with nothing missing but the wheels and the hatch motor lol
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 03:40 PM
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Re: fuse #15 HELP!

any gm car from like 86 til 93 used them
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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I never even thought of looking in other cars, chances are they would be stripped too though, if your not the first one in a car in the junkyards here your lucky to find what your looking for
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Old Mar 31, 2010 | 04:53 PM
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you woud be suprised of how many people space it off or just dont want to crawl in the back of a car to get one out, it was a PITA for me to crawl in the back of that camaro..., but once you get it and get it fixed its all better.
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