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Old 08-24-2013, 11:34 PM
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lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

305 1990 camaro rs manual trans all stock for now.

So here is the problem, I went to the movies tried to start the car and got power but no starter and no fuel.

Next day I look at my key and the freaking pellet fell out, I have no idea the resistance I have been going through the resistors I bought from radio shack and tying different ones together getting the desired resistance but with no avail

Quickly, is there a resister sort of dimmer I could try out I've seen a radio one that looked promising.

But is there a way to type in my Vin anywhere to find my resitance because unfortunately the car isn't in my name yet

Next and last thing what should happen when I find the correct resistance, as in the security light will turn off or blink or something useful, any sort of help would be appreciated
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

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I have no idea the resistance I have been going through the resistors I bought from radio shack
Next and last thing what should happen when I find the correct resistance, as in the security light will turn off or blink or something useful,
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...formation.html

Read this for understanding how VATS works
https://www.thirdgen.org/vats_passkey_system

Originally Posted by bugman40284
is there a resister sort of dimmer I could try out I've seen a radio one that looked promising.
You could , would have to set and check the resistance by the chart in link above with a DVM ,then connect it and if not the correct ,
change the resistance value while waiting 5 minutes for the system to reset.

NB;
every time you turn the key the timer resets to zero again
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

Luckily, my car doesn't have VATS so I may not have the most current or correct info. Have you tried your favorite search engine?

http://www.vatskey.com/vats/vatskeylock.htm

You didn't lose your key but this may be one option:

http://www.vatskey.com/vats/lostvatskey.htm

I'd trust responses from other members with real experiences:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...tor-value.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...stor-help.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...plain-why.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/elec...ce-values.html

http://www.google.com/search?q=vats+...en-US:official
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

If you have a multimeter, I would get a potentiometer from radio shack and set the resistance for the first value from the table, if that doesn't work then try the next value, etc until you hit the correct one.
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

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.... set the resistance for the first value from the table, if that doesn't work then try the next value, etc until you hit the correct one.

Kinda , exactly like what I already said in post # 2 above
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

There must be a echo in here
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

Only I simplified it so it is understandable. I told him what he needed and where to get it, you gave him acronyms he may or may not know.

There was nothing wrong with my post.
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

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you gave him acronyms he may or may not know.
That is why we have Google for those intelligent enough to punch 3 letters into the Google search box and hit enter.

( as opposed to coming back here and asking ,whot tis a DVM ???? as is usually the case)
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

OK guys enough with the arguing it's all done and figured out thanks for the help in the end I found an old stereo and ripped the volume control off and used that, took me a couple hours but it started right up just as I was losing hope sooooo thanks again for the help
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

No kidding, never thought I'd catch flack for helping a fellow out. Apparently you're just supposed to google it all and not ask any questions. :/

Anyway, I'm glad you got it running. If you measure the resistance of what you have your dial at, you can build you a resistor pack and wire it into the harness. If you ever park anywhere you are uncomfortable, you can just unplug it and take it with you.
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

Originally Posted by Spaceboy1980
Apparently you're just supposed to google it all and not ask any questions. .
You may very well say that.

Many of the questions asked on here are not 3rd Gen specific and are just general engine questions.
The classic " my car won't start ,what could be the problem ?" could easily be narrowed down through a Google search bringing up something like this

http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/gm/...t-a-no-start-1

Problem being everyone now expects instant answers to their car problems.
There was a time where unless you were friends with that grumpy mechanic at the other end of town ,you actually had to work on your car ,
learn it's systems and how it operated and how to sort problems out on your own.

Now all you do is pull out your cell , type in HELP and get someone to walk you through the problem without actually learning anything.
Too bad if your car stops in the boondocks and your cell battery is flat
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

You can't learn without asking questions. You are right in the fact that he was spoon fed what to do, but not why to do it. I guess it depends on your audience on if they want to know what or why.
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

Originally Posted by Spaceboy1980
You are right in the fact that he was spoon fed what to do, but not why to do it. .
NB
My comments were not directed at this OP ; he correctly diagnosed what his starting problem was and went about fixing it before starting this thread
His question about a variable resistance to speed up finding the correct value is perfectly valid (and 3rd Gen related )
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Re: lost pellet dont know resistance for my passkey

All we need is love you guys both have very valid points but the bickering is getting to me what you guys both said was almost the same, maybe said a little bit different but in the end you both help me loads so again thank you
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