are hooker headers any good?
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Hooker Headers have been around about as long as anyone still doing business. They have a very loyal racer following. They tend to do their homework.
There isn't any difference between the Comps and Super Comps with respect to quality or performance (relatively speaking). Assuming we're talking about shorties, the Comps are headers, gaskets, bolts, and reducers only, whereas the SC's come with A.I.R. fittings and a y-pipe as well (making them emissions-legal).
Not that they're perfect. I wasn't too pleased to see the small opening in the SC collector ball flange (when I asked about it, they said the gases have pretty much slowed down by the time they get to the flange, so it isn't a performance problem - they make it that small to promote good sealing). I took a 3" high speed angle grinder to them and opened them up to the down-pipe ID, centered on the down-pipe mounting (for that good seal they were concerned about). Also, the head-to-header gaskets partially occluded the ports, and appeared to be somewhat cheap paper. To that, they responded that the hot exhaust gases would burn out the gasket that was in the flow path, so it wouldn't be a problem very long. That gave me warm fuzzies about leak problems down the road. So, I put on FelPro gaskets there.
Otherwise, no complaints about the headers. Car runs like gangbusters (for what it is, anyway). Many are using them on higher-performance engines than mine.
There isn't any difference between the Comps and Super Comps with respect to quality or performance (relatively speaking). Assuming we're talking about shorties, the Comps are headers, gaskets, bolts, and reducers only, whereas the SC's come with A.I.R. fittings and a y-pipe as well (making them emissions-legal).
Not that they're perfect. I wasn't too pleased to see the small opening in the SC collector ball flange (when I asked about it, they said the gases have pretty much slowed down by the time they get to the flange, so it isn't a performance problem - they make it that small to promote good sealing). I took a 3" high speed angle grinder to them and opened them up to the down-pipe ID, centered on the down-pipe mounting (for that good seal they were concerned about). Also, the head-to-header gaskets partially occluded the ports, and appeared to be somewhat cheap paper. To that, they responded that the hot exhaust gases would burn out the gasket that was in the flow path, so it wouldn't be a problem very long. That gave me warm fuzzies about leak problems down the road. So, I put on FelPro gaskets there.
Otherwise, no complaints about the headers. Car runs like gangbusters (for what it is, anyway). Many are using them on higher-performance engines than mine.
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Car: 1986 IROC-Z28
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What if you don't have to worry about emissions? Would the super comp shorties still be ok? Would any holes have to be plugged? Or would you go w/ a different set of headers?
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
The A.I.R. pipes are easy to plug. Right now, I need new check valves, so have a brass cap on each side. If you want to remove the tubes completely, that will require cutting and brazing/welding. The O2 fitting can be plugged with little hassle.
Now you've got "normal" shorties.
Now you've got "normal" shorties.
To Eatmydust,
If you don't need the emissions provisions you will probably be better off with the Comps and fabricated headpipes. The collectors in the comps will flow better than the collectors in the Super Comps, and the Comps are substantially cheaper.
If you don't need the emissions provisions you will probably be better off with the Comps and fabricated headpipes. The collectors in the comps will flow better than the collectors in the Super Comps, and the Comps are substantially cheaper.
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No you wont be better off with the comps. Exhaust shops are lazy and they cannot do performance work. (not around here anyways) I bought hooker comps and installed them. Went to the shop and had a y pipe made...OMG its a piece of crap. They would only do a 2 1/4'' bends are terrible...everything just sucks. Just get the super comps. wish i would have in the first place.
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
In my opinion, the y-pipe of the Super Comp shorty set is the star of the show.
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Car: 84 camaro Z28
Engine: 434sbc
Transmission: powerglide
Axle/Gears: moser 9" with 411 posi
does anyone have a part number from jegs or summit for those super comp shorties you guys are talking about. i might get them. i really want the coated slp's but they are very expensive and i'll have to wait untill after christmas to see how much money i have left over.
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Joined: Mar 2000
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
If you have a computerized induction system, you need the O2 sensor.
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