Are hooker competitions the only ones made? Im looking at upgrading to long tubes. I see in the jegs catalog that they make them for 82-92 and thier cheap!

is this the correct part # (jegs)?

520-2460

Thanks.

Also, how do they fit? Any issues running long tubes in thirdgens? Have to cut into the a-arms or anything?

 

Crap, nevermind, these are the 1" 5/8's.

 

Those are shorties.

 

Showing up as long tubes in the catalog and the website?

 

Hedman 68460, 1-5/8" LT

Hooker Supercomp 2210, 1-3/4" LT

 

Hmmm, looks like thats a no go, I knew something was up when I saw long tubes for 150....=/.

 

Don't believe the pictures.

Try http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...0hkr&x=15&y=10 . Note the description.

 

i put the hedman lt's on my car. Tight,but they worked fine. I had a set of taylor wires that would not work. Used wires for a chev pickup and they worked great! I would recomend going ahead and buying the copper gaskets. Also,mine were installed in conjuction w/ a motor change. Good Luck!

 

Hedman makes long tubes for third gens. So does hooker

My dad bought a set od hedman's through summit for $120

We just put them on last week.

I recommon the hedmans over the hookers because the hedmans are up high, and gives better ground clearance.

Don't think you'll pull them out of the box and put them on though!!!!!

Driver's side... 2 tubes had to be dimpled (heat with propane torch, lay 1/2" drive big socket and extesion on spot to be dented, and hit socket with a hammer

Also the A-arm mount had to be ground. I used a 4.5" angle grinder to do his. Not a big prob at all, you'll see the two things sticking down that has to be ground.

Also driver side header goes in from bottom (car on drive on in driveway ramps front and rear)

Pass. side, goes in from the top, but the starter has to come off 1st.


Then too hook up the exhaust, you'll need hedman's "S-pipes" $22 from summit. The headers are up so high, pipes from the header back will run right into the trans crossmember, so the S pipes will let the pipes come down and clear the crossmember.

From there back, you can run pretty much a stright pc. of pipe on each side (we're putting an X pipe on my dad's car though)

Then the mufflers, and tail pipes

 

Will these have clearance with a 5 speed.

 

http://www.hedman.com/pages/hedmanmain.html

Footnote 135 says TH700 and TH350 only (in other words, no manual transmission).

Pic: http://www.hedman.com/pages/popular-photos/68460.tif

If your dad got Hedmans from Summit for $120, they either weren't the 68460's, or he got them a long time ago: http://www.summitracing.com type in "HED-68460" in the "Enter Summit Part#" fast search.

 

Hmm, well they went up $16 in 4 mo. time. He bought his about 4 mo. ago, and we just now got the engine built, installed, and got around to putting the exhaust on.

His is hedman 68460, non coated long tubes, shipping weight 23 lbs, box weight 3 lbs,

 

I swear thats what i hate most about thirdgens couldnt they have thought about aftermarket exhaust at all?

 

night rider lets see some pics of this process. that would help see what the problems are.

thanks

 

92rs85berlintta... I'll post pics in this thread around the weekend. We're at kinda a stand still till later today (wed) cause of the S pipes.

Didn't know we needed them fri. when we started on the exhaust, so had to order them and they will be here today.

With the S pipes, it's gonna be simple.

I do have pics of my shorty headers/dual exhaust on my web shots page. I think it's in the "finishing touchs" album

 

Night rider327 are those 1 5/8? ground clearence from the header to ground at lowest spot?

 

Yeah the hedman's are 1-5/8" tubes with 3" coll. long tube header.

Ground clearance on the headers are better than stock IMO

The collector. Is way up high, the top inch over so of the coll. is above the frame rails/subframe

When looking from rear of the car, about half of the coll. is at and above trans crossmember, other half is below trans crossmember **thats why the S pipes are needed**

With the S pipes, the exhaust pipe can run about 1/4-1/5" below trans crossmember. If you run it that close to the crossmember though, be sure to hang it good.

(6 hangers total, 3 per side.. rubber style at the trans. cross member, rubber style at the muffler, and metal style at the rear of tail pipes)

That away the pipes wont rattle against the crossmember

 

92rs85berlintta.... Here's a pic on the system welded up, out from under the car.

 

Does anyone know if you can use the Headmans if you have a 6speed.

 

Night rider327 good pic !
Would love to see more pics from the hedmann headers that will also answer the 6speed headmann Q i guess?

On the manual side i would say slim to fat:

T10> T5> 6speed

on the automatic side i would say:

PG>200Th>350TH>700R4>400TH>4l80e

 

Is the hydraulic clutch setup a lil different tho i thought thats what got in the way.

 

Check out Cartek or Mc Loed if would use a 4th gen style version so you have more space!
we had the trouble on a T5 with the header real close to the bell housing cylinder

 

Got any websites or part numbers?

 

http://www.mcleodind.com/

 

hedman longtubes,s-bends, h-pipe, dual exhaust:


ground clearance:

 

Need a special crossmember made for duals.

 

i have the stock crossmember. don't know what your talking about man.

 

Im talking about someone needs to make one so we can have better ground clearance that has room for the pipes. There is a car in the appearance section off ebay i posted has brackets made to hold the tranny and all kinds of room for the exhaust.

 

the transmember that you are asking for is on sale already!
check with search!
it will let the tubes pass higher in the chassie!

mw66nova if these are hedmanns i would need two more numbers!

1. can you check ground to front fenderlip (wheelhouse)and show a pic
2.can you check on collector and ground hight at the point when the header comes out low from the exhaustports!

i loved the dual hight pic , but as we are going real different ways on design i would love to see those two numbers

 

Wow thats awsome where u get that and do they have them for 6 speeds?

 

the one in that pic is a T56...

and no one is making them in a production mannet for sale as far as i know.

theres one guy who made one on here, and he offered to make a couple for people who asked... but you cant just go out and buy one right now.

 

german-motorsports: not exactly sure what your asking but here is what i think your asking.
1. ground to fenderwell: 26 7/8"
2. ground to collector: 5 1/4"

sorry, i don't have my digital camera handy tonight so, now pics.

 

So who was the guy that made the mount in that pic? I must say that it is bad @$$!!

 

As he is not a sponsor lets take caution here and send email to me!
Dude ist not quite right! The thing is for sale!
Its home made ...and i guess we´ll soon see a "official" copy edition for 30000$ on this board for sale!
Remember the :brake upgrade....strut tower mount and other stuff that went high on price after the "backyard mechanics"
did their duty first!

 

Well the good part is that I tracked him down. The bad part is that this setup is for a LT1 tranny.

 

Burn the expensive way to get one ...swap to a lt1

the easy way for a non do it yourselfer?print out the pic and visit the next welding shop in town!

Unless you are planning on slamming that 3rd gen to the ground no need on a stock hight car evenso you wanna run duals!
Might give you more freedom to know the exhaust is up but ......you might search the guy is not the only one aound here..maybe a T5 member will show up....