H-pipe or not?
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From: Benzie, MI
Car: 91 rs
Engine: Blow through 383, 10 psi, xr288hr
Transmission: Manual th350 ATI 3000
Axle/Gears: 3.50 9"
H-pipe or not?
Dropping in a supercharged 383 with a large cam. Dual 3" exhaust. Ultraflow mufflers. I know crossover pipes can make more power, but I heard its only if your exhaust is restrictive. Is this true, or would I need one?
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From: Fallon, NV
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: Small Block
Transmission: TH350 w/ 3000 stall convertor
Axle/Gears: 3.73 w/ powertrax locker
Re: H-pipe or not?
thats not true. An H-pipe equals out the pressures in the exhaust system. You know when its cold outside and you start up a dual exhaust car. the condensation kinda alternates from pipe to pipe when it comes out. An h pipe equalizes this so the exhaust comes out all at once. It sounds better too!
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From: Benzie, MI
Car: 91 rs
Engine: Blow through 383, 10 psi, xr288hr
Transmission: Manual th350 ATI 3000
Axle/Gears: 3.50 9"
Re: H-pipe or not?
Well a summit kit is only like 30 bucks. If I did it, should the pipe be equal diameter to the exhaust? Or smaller?
Sound is always a great bonus.
Hey by the way, I used to be a Tactical Aircraft Maintenance Technician in the air force. We were called crew chiefs, I believe we called you guys sheetmetal. Is it the same in the Navy? I just got out two months ago. Civ life is a little boring compared to the last four years.
Sound is always a great bonus.
Hey by the way, I used to be a Tactical Aircraft Maintenance Technician in the air force. We were called crew chiefs, I believe we called you guys sheetmetal. Is it the same in the Navy? I just got out two months ago. Civ life is a little boring compared to the last four years.
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From: Fallon, NV
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: Small Block
Transmission: TH350 w/ 3000 stall convertor
Axle/Gears: 3.73 w/ powertrax locker
Re: H-pipe or not?
Yes we have metal benders, bubble chasers for hydraulics.
Might as well make it the same size as the exhaust, so if you decide to go with a bigger engine the h pipe isnt a constriction point.
Might as well make it the same size as the exhaust, so if you decide to go with a bigger engine the h pipe isnt a constriction point.
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Car: 1984 Z28
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Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
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Re: H-pipe or not?
run the h-pipe, it can't hurt anything only help, plus it smoothes out the exhaust note.
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Car: 1984 Trans Am
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Re: H-pipe or not?
i've heard that an x-pipe works better.. but thats just what i heard... or read??
EDIT: its a tangentially siamesed x-pipe.. read the second and third article
http://www.drgas.com/articles/
EDIT: its a tangentially siamesed x-pipe.. read the second and third article
http://www.drgas.com/articles/
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Car: 87 TA clone
Engine: 70/70 Turbo 5.3 LS
Transmission: bullet proof 2004R
Axle/Gears: ford 8.8, 3.55 gears
Re: H-pipe or not?
Xpipes are more efficient and make more power than a Hpipe, most stick to a Hpipe due to mounting and space issues but an Xpipe will increase power in the upper RPM ranges more than an Hpipe not to mention drastically changing the exhaust tone... i lost alil power down low but 2500rpms and up it screams lol
originally i had a slightly modded 350tpi headman longtubes and 3" duals with turndowns with 3" afterburner mufflers and i loved it, when i went to lower the car i needed more ground clearance so i build a 3" mandrel bend system with 3" summit universal xpipe(100$) and 3" force mufflers and man wat a difference... the XPIPE made the exhaust soooo much better, id go with the xpipe just my .02
originally i had a slightly modded 350tpi headman longtubes and 3" duals with turndowns with 3" afterburner mufflers and i loved it, when i went to lower the car i needed more ground clearance so i build a 3" mandrel bend system with 3" summit universal xpipe(100$) and 3" force mufflers and man wat a difference... the XPIPE made the exhaust soooo much better, id go with the xpipe just my .02
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
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Re: H-pipe or not?
so an h pipe fits right in and the x pipe has some issues? what issues
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Car: 1991 L03 700r4 RS
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Transmission: Th350 red neck Performance 3k stall
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Re: H-pipe or not?
I ran an H pipe in my car and it made an immediate difference. The car's a little smoother and quieter now but there was a definite power gain that beared out in my track times. The setup is Hedman long tubes, Hedman S bend extensions, H pipe is at the end of these extensions and I have a pair of dual classic chambered mufflers with turn downs.
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