ok im trying to search to find my answers bt its not really working out and plus the newer info that i need doesnt seemto be in any of the more recent posts that are up

the ball and socket flange issue

whats the deal with them going from 3 bolt flanges over to ball and socket crap

what heddman headers meet this criteria currently at this time

LT
painted
no air tube or sensor holes
sbc engines
82-92 F body
3 bolt flange
will clear stock large delco starter


help ???


everytime i go on summit and find a set of headers that look great and sound good the damn things are ball and socket crap

its pissing me off


theres only one Lt header that fits all the criteria above now and its 68469

but theyre over 200 bucks

what happened to the 130 dollar ones ??



thanks for anything

 

they still have the 130 dollar ones with the ball socket style.just seals alot better i run them on my camaro here is the part number from summit hed-68460 they run about 146.00

 

Ball & socket is not crap. It is a better sealing design.

 

i have to have 3 bolt because i need to run the summit S-extensions in which are 3 bolt

in which i now cant find the damn part number of that m66nova posted because ****in search is broken

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsea...75&D=%2D105475


but since they are not ball and socket its not going to do any good anyways


so now what ?


unless these would be the exact same as the 3 bolt ones ???
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

??



i need pics of this ball and socket stuff

how does it work i have never seen any
i gues sim never going to have exhaust on this damn car

nothing but a nightmare, damn companies gotta be changing and discontinuing stuff

dammit

im sick of it


thanks

 

heddman also makes a extension for the ball socket type header here is the part number

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...-1&showValue=1
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here is the part number for the 3 bolt flange also from jegs

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...-1&showValue=2

 

You can still use the old non ball and socket extensions on the ball and socket headers it just won't be proper FYI, don't use a gasket and it's the same 3 bolt flange. OR you can spend 30 bucks and just buy the ball and socket flanges you need from Jegs or Summit. I called Hedman because I was having trouble finding the extensions and they filled me in on why they changed the design and what I needed.

 

i like the ball and socket style, prevents the gaskets from blowing out and has a way better seal

 

ball and socket is fine on the $130 cheapies. Just put a set on a car for a guy 2 weeks ago. Used the headmann S-bends which have a 3 bolt flange and no gasket. Seemed to seal fine for me, and saved him the $25 pair of aluminum no leak donuts

 

Now the hedman 68460 ball and socket headers, is it true from what I am reading that they can bolt onto 3 bolt flanges? you just need no gasket or something? Say if a muffler has a 3 bolt flange would it bolt right on to the ball and socket flange 3 inch flange? Thanks for the help.

 

can't bolt a muffler directly onto the headers you need the headmann S-bend pipes first at least

 

what about purple hornies?

 

i have hedman 68460 and it clears the stock starter. just have to take it out to install the headers. the ball and socket, i cant keept nuts and bolts in it, even with locking washers i seem to lose them.

 

Yes the 3 bolt flange will bolt directly onto the ball and socket flanges I've PERSONALLY seen this done and it's holding. If you can't keep the bolts in use red loctite, I use it on those bolts and my header bolts; it's nice not having to tighten those things weekly.

 

cool. Thanks for the info.

 

ok i'm lost... i've checked every link and part number in this thread and not a one of them are ball and socket. all look like they have the standard 3 bolt 3in flang that blows out all the time.




am i missing something?