Im currently in a stock appearing street/strip build, im trying to keep it as stock as i can but clean up the clutter. ive completly gutted the car and ive built a carburated 500hp 350ho fully roller, ditched the 700R and am in the process of building a bulletproof TH350 above the power expectancy. So as im plotting my build ive been thinking of ditching the Torque Arm setup and add some traction to what i have, Ive been researching 4-link setups day and night for about a month and all i can find are " How To Back Half " to do so. Back halfing isnt something i was looking forward to doing at ALL, *I want to aviod as much cutting as i possibly can but still have the luxurys. So i went on Heidts and saw their setup for up to a 81' model and was thinking... WHY cant we do that for OUR cars. So bound and determined as i was i kept searching and ran across " Ed Quay - Race Car Parts and Fabrication " There was a number and i figured what could be the worst... he could tell me theres NO other way and just back half it.*

I called and told the guy my ideas on the car and what i was trying to achieve and he told me they have a 3rd Gen in the shop right now that they were working on doing that verry idea too... It isnt complete yet he told me but they plan on making the kit as fool proof as possible, there will be Some cutting it wont be a bolt on kit but he said it will be minor. So minor in fact he said they are planning on keeping the back seat, cutting the dishes out but keeping the look! I asked about how long he figured the project was going to be in the build process he told me to check back in a couple of months and they would have more information and even pictures to share.*

I Dont Know About You... But IM Ecstatic!!! LOL*

I cant wait to see what they have in store, any info i get i will try and keep you posted and if they do offer a kit i will be making a build thread.*

Here is some information on Ed Quay Racing

http://www.edquay.com/camaro/82-92camaro_catalog.pdf

948 Commerce Drive (Route 100 & State Street) Pottstown, Pa 19464

Information/Tech Line: 610 323-9560*

Order Line: 800 477-5786*

Fax: 610 970-1126*

www.edquay.com

 

I contacted Bob at Ed Quay Racing today, He said the projects been pushed back due to the amount of work they have going on at the moment. I also found out this is his car, i think thats one of the cooler parts that its not just a shop test car its something someones putting some love into. So... Hopefully in a couple months ill have some pictures i can add to here lol.

 

Ive seen 4 links made from the stock LCA mounting positon. Just weld an upper rod ended bar to the middle of the Rear LCA with tabs. Then weld a bracket on the upper part of the Axle tube housing and connect. Then ditch the Tq arm and youll be good. Cant be any easier than that. No cutting!

go to post #7 and take a look at the pics.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/fabr...rm-delete.html

 

why? a torque arm will hold what little power you're making no problem. This is one of the best performing suspension setups out there for racing.

 

Since a short arm 4-link will have terrible plotting locations for the IC, the torque arm will work better.

 

Well for a couple of reasons... 1. I personaly dont care for the Arm style, it seems verry flawed and can be a pain in the a$$ more often then not. 2. Ive changed my transmission and rearend and dont have the mount on either and DID look at puting it back but for the cost of putting back what i really dont care for i could buy hardware and change it to something i do, it will take more time and work YES, does that deter me? No.

Ive got time to find out 100% what i wanna do, i do like to look at all ideas and find the best one i like and i do read the pros and cons of everything before doing it. Luckly im not to the rear of the car yet im currently in the process of smoothing the firewall and engine bay area, flat black outside with a gloss black engine bay and a motor thats bright red and chrome i think will definately set it off. I trust what you say about the Arm pushing ppl into 7s i just prefer to have something diffrent if i can.

Thanks for the link im gonna look into that a little more but i think Alky is on to something with the lenght issue, ill definately give it some thought tho. I really hope the guys at Ed Quay get theirs done before i even get close because if they can make a weldable kit that would be amazing, hes got really great ideas and by our talk i really think they can pull it off. I need to make a build page i think i may do that later on today so i can kinda give you all a idea of what i have so far and plans for later.

Thanks for the advice negative or positive it all leads to a answer in the end, Right! lol

 

I dont mind you being different but to usually change something for the better or at least equivalent to what our cars came with. I agree that the tq arm is far better than 4 links as a better overall setup. They are making lots of kits to convert older camaro/firebird from a 4 link/leafspring to tq arm suspension due to how well it performs. If your worried about taking putting it back in and making it fit the TH350 then get a tunnel mount tq arm. they are bolt on kits and allow you to run any trans you want, you dont even need to take it out to change transmissions/work on them.

Im currently running a modified Jegster shorty tunnel mount tq arm. Im using the tunnel bracket but I made my own tq arm to fit my special rear. Ive been trying to get rid of the jegster shorty tubular tq arm for a while now. If you want it then all you have to do is fab up a tunnel mount which is pretty easy. That way you can keep the "better" suspension but fix all your problems at one. Move foward... not backward lol

I congratulate you being different, Im the same way. My firebird has a 521 big block ford, a ford C6 trans (3 speed like the TH350 but much stronger) and a ford 8.8 rear end. Which required custom everything! trans crossmember I made, tq arm and mount to the rear I made. This allowed me to drop in a completely different drivetrain without any hiccups really. and I never took the tq arm out to get it all together.

 

lots of work for something that will not benefit you at all. If you don't like the torque arm mounted to the trans, buy a jegster torque arm or the BMR extreme, etc to run a shorter one

 

Ill look into that as well i havnt seen that style but i will take a look later. Ive always heard 4 link was the way to go when trying to hook up on the track, i do plan to drive it some on the street but not all the time. Like i said im up for all suggestions, ill be usuing it for more as a strip car than street but still would like to drive it there and it apear as close to stock as possible.

 

4-link is one of the best drag race suspension setups but that means using a proper 4-link system which will also require doing a back half to make the room for the longer arms.

The third gen body style just doesn't have the room under the floor to fabricate a different suspension easily. The diff sits high up into the body compared to other cars.

To best use a torque arm, get it off the transmission. The easiest way is to buy an aftermarket torque arm that attaches to the tranny crossmember. Aftermarket crossmember designed for the tranny you intend to use. Get rid of all the rubber suspension bushings and replace them with poly or if it's a track only car, change the suspension components with racing parts that use rod ends.