Firechick

In the April 1997 edition of Motor Trend(I know it's old), there is a Chevy Camaro ad. The ad reads

"If everyone owned one,maybe we could have prevented Disco."

"Camaro Z28.Disco. It was a pimple on the face of music history. And while polyester suits had thier 15 minutes of fame, Rock and Roll is here to stay. So is the Chevy Camaro Z28.With eight cylinders and 225 horses,it's the only way to boogie.

So kids what have we learned today?-GM lied!

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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It'll be back in a few years.

83tranzam

Yeah, do a search on the boards & you'll find several threads and several people (myself included) who have already established that the Camaro will likely return around 2005. Don'tcha fret none.

Firechick

I know the Firebird and Camaro MIGHT be back. I was just showing that GM, Chevy inparticular maked a check thier *** can't cash back in 1997. If they stood by it we would still have the f-Body, in 2003 that's all.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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The Camaro will be back, its just a matter of time. Its pretty much unofficial fact while the Firebird will probably not be back.

Firechick

FIGURES!

kizz

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here's somethin to think about: Nobody here knows IF or WHEN the camaro OR the firebird are coming back. That's a fact. The few people that know ther answer are not talking or they'd lose their jobs. Chances are better for the camaro's return, but with the upcoming 2004 GTO, Firebird's chances are bleak. The last time PMD had 2 musclecars to choose from was 1974, and in today's SUV-oblivion-is-SUV-bliss world, that's not gonna happen again. Then you factor in the possible Pontiac Solstice roadster and it looks even worse for Firebird. Fact remains nobody can guess as to when the Camaro or Firebird is coming back, if ever! I've heard anything from 2004 to 2010, and I've heard guarantees that it's never gonna happen. Nobody knows, but it's more likely for Camaro. Best place to check for info is the 5th gen forum at http://web.camaross.com

hope this helps, GT

TheWraith

the 97 z28 had 285hp.

Firechick

That is what Chevy stated in their ad,225 not 285. i was just putting the ad down word for word.

fast83camaro

originally posted by firechick:

That's not old compared to the collection of over 400 hot ros, car crafts, super chevys, etc. from 1984-1992 that i have and read.

FyreLance

I wish they'd keep the 'bird going. I really do.

Firechick

Fast83Camaro, I also have tons of car mags from the 70s,80s,90s. It is fun to read about test drives of the day,and see what the car trends were. I was even inspired by a man who took a 85 Firebird from the junk yard and built a show/race winning pro street. I always believed any F-Body can be saved, with enough time, cash,tlc.

fast83camaro

I know exactly how you feel!

Ward

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Sometimes GM seems to get a little too self confident and bring out these crappy vehicles, which they think will spark a new trend, but most of the time just becomes an eyesore. Examples:

Ward

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iroc_cragg

They only let it go because they wanted to totally re design the car. Has anyone read the new motor trend with the 2005 mustang that looks like the old 1965 mustangs. I bet that camaro is gonna be back then ready with a re designs version of the 1967 Z28 and its gonna stomp on that mustang.

Just my .02 cents.

Firechick

I certainly hope so Iroc-Cragg. Let's hope for the Firebird's triumphant 5-gen return too. We can't have one without the other.

kizz

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I have to hand it to the Aztek for actually hacing some EDGES, some CORNERS, some DISTINCTION, because just about every other thing out there is just a round happiness bubble with no bumpers, with teardrop headlights and giant taillights positioned up on the roof and headache-giving designs like that. Most entry level SUVs look the same regardless of foreign or domestic, and so do most sedans or coupes, regardless of foreign or domestic, but the Aztek can't be mistaken for anything else.. it's unique.

Having said that, while the Aztek had its good points and *some* functionality, it was still the biggest waste of time in recent Pontiac memory, and I wish they'd used their resources into saving the f-body instead of wasting money giving the Aztek an emergency facelift in only its 2nd year, and hyping up the unwanted Vibe. Pontiac must agree with me that the Aztek was a blunder, since they're stopping production around 2004.

82Z28NAZ

GM's decision to drop the F-body was far worse than a marketing ploy. The true villain here is our government. Yes that's right, good ole uncle same is the one giving us the shaft(imagine that). EPA regulation forces car companies (in the U.S. of course) to have to sell so many "environmentally friendly" vehicles to those that aren't so friendly (say 3/4 truck with 8.1 liter). While Fraud is having a field day with the Focus, GM isn't doing to well with their, shall we say, smaller cars. When GM said it was dropping the F-body due to slow sales it wasn't too far off the beaten path. A sugar coated lie as it were. This is only true when you base it up against sales of the full-size truck lines even up the SUV ranks. So they gave our 'Birds and Z's the axe. One had to go and of course it wasn't going to be a customer based decision.

After all this I still won't buy a damn ford :nono:

Inwo

Everyone knows the Camaro will be back. It's coming back as a 4 door fwd compact sedan to compete with the Honda Accord. They already implied it with the recent developments in GM. 2.2 Litres of Ecotec Powa!

FruityOne

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! IT CAN'T BEEEEEeee.

Please don't tell me they'll do to the Camaro's what Chrysler did to the Duster's and Chargers.

Actually come to think of it, Chrylser did some pretty good stuff with the Dodge Daytona chargers of the 80's. Those 2.2 turbo's were pretty quick.

Inwo

Who said anything about a turbo?

FruityOne

I well, I'd rather have the displacement, but with the EPA breathing down their necks the 2.2L Turbo engine was a decent power plant to run.

I know there wasn't any mention of a 2.2L "Turbo" in the post, but no-one really know's anything so we can speculate all we want.

However a 2.2L 4door does NOT fit in with the idea of a 'sports car'.

82Z28NAZ

who the hell in their right mind would buy a 4-door Camaro????

Inwo

The same people that would buy an fwd Impala or Monte Carlo...

Camaro87SC

gm loves to ruin classics.......i didn't even know the monte carlo existed in the early to late 90's......i thought it was a two door lumina.......both my parents now own 2002 monte carlos....one of which is the dale earnhardt (one look and u'll bust a nut). anywho. the new monte however looks amazing but is front wheel drive and is only available in a six auto (big six but still). Gm takes the famous names that now adults knew as kids and make them into cars they'll buy,,family cars. in other words..they stick with the generation which made the name famous in the first place..with the new generation of rice burning p@ssy's and rustang enthusiests it leaves the real muscle cars like the monte, charger, impala, camaro, and birds in history only being revitalized by us, the third gen'ers. new montes are a prime example of wat the next camaro will be....all show no go...the car is spacious and luxurious (leather heated seats, amazing sound system, onstar, and back seats that i can fit in...keep in mind i'm 6'2) there have been rumored reports which i will have no shock if they are true...the new camaros will be front wheel drive family cars with a sports car body.....same deal with the once ballsy monte.......camaro is just a few years behind....can't wait till 2005 :sillylol:

82Z28NAZ

that's just sick and disturbing

87350MCSS

Actually in 2005 they are going to bring the monte back to a v8 and rwd. FWD will still be an option though. Y aknow like in the 80's teh monte LS's had v6's and fuel injection but no performace anything unless you went for the SS, Posi 3:73 L69 performace suspencion, styling. So there may be hope. If they do bring teh monte back as it should be than why not the camaro. besides I know that i am not going to buy a 40k vette just to go tooling around in and pick on ricers. I would wrather have a 20k camaro or Firebird. So would many others so i know it will be back. The camaro is the second most popular car made by chevrolet the vette being the first.

Camaro87SC

they'll experiment as they did w/ the monte......i heard they're bringing the v8 back in the monte but it'll still be an auto w/ traction control.......altho these sound out of reach its nowhere near impossible......i thought new cars of the same make/model were supposed to roast up the older models......but i know many friends w/ 80's monte ss's who could mess up my parents' cars.....they'll do it and realized the f-body will sell less as a front wheel drive v6 family car and kick themselves in the a$$ for wasting cash on this......we'll just have to wait and see how gm ruins our beloved f-body

87350MCSS

i heard they're bringing the v8 back in the monte but it'll still be an auto w/ traction control.......altho these sound out of reach its nowhere near impossible......i thought new cars of the same make/model were supposed to roast up the older models......but i know many friends w/ 80's monte ss's who could mess up my parents' cars....

Yeah it will still be an auto with traction control. But hey my monte is an auto now so i am used to it. And yeah to 2000-03 SS/HS could beat a stock 80's monte but it can alos beat an 82-86 stock l69 camaro with the peanut cam. They are only quicker because they are made of fiberglass and plastic while my car is made of American Steel.

Camaro87SC

ahhhh yes........good point........but still......new monte's have no sound wat so ever.......my parents are getting new exhausts fabricated so they can have that "rumble".....lol......i drove the SS the other day and still didn't feel like it had the pickup that my friends 305 has.......just cuz when u floor it and the tire starts to chirp then the traction control kicks in and lowers the RPM......thats why i hit the "tract control off" button