IROCZTWENTYGR8

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OK, I found the exact 87 IROC-Z28 in my sig that I've been always looking for. Many of you that have been here for a while probably know that I've been looking for it for a really long time, since before I registered, and its pretty much always been in my sig. I've turned down other cars and waited just to find the right 1 I want so much.

This car happens to be mint and stock suppossedly with only 22,000 miles, always stored, and maintained. It has practically every option available in 87, even the original Goodyear GB tires with more than 50% tread still on them in great shape, all the paperwork, receipts, and all the things u got when u have a low mile car. The only thing ever changed on the car is the battery and alternator from never getting used and just started every so often. But, the thing is the price is $11,500 and he does not want to go lower and isn't in that much of a rush to sell it. I figured I'd find 1 with like 65,000 miles and have some money left over, but here I will have to use everything and borrow then work it off. But it would be having the car I always wanted brand new. I have to say this is the 1st time I've seen the exact car I want for sale in all these years. And the car is real far away from me but he said he doesn't mind delivering it here himself. I've seen some pictures of it and it looks new, but I will see more/better 1's by E-Mail soon. I always wanted to make a low 12 Sec. car out of it once I found the car, but I would probably wait a while if I did buy this because of the originality and just do some little things. I would probably go ahead and do the heavy mods 1 day anyway and just keep all the stock stuff. I would usually be the 1 to reply and tell others the prices and stuff in these kinds of posts, but its a little different since its me. I'm not saying I'm buying this car but the opportunity is there and it'd be nice. What do you guys think??

Z28DJP1987

Way too much money, let him set on it. The way you talk a lot of parts may need repacing because they never were used. Do not be impressed by the GB tires, even new with full tread they were Sh-t.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Also the air conditioning might need a recharge which is suppossedly the cars' only fault. Not a big deal to me since I don't really use it anyway but still. How much does that cost?? I don't know about the tires, they did pull .92 G's on them.

Z28DJP1987

Yes they did, just don't spit in front of them & then ZERO G's. Still way to much money, think about all gaskets, seals. hoses and other parts that dried out from lack of use. The external parts may look good for show and if you don't drive it.

Cruzin Kaz

I would agree with you if the car had only a few hundred miles or something. But 22,000miles. I really don't think all the gaskets and hoses will be brittle. If the car was well taken car of , it should be fine. $11,500 isn't all that bad, but to make a 12 sec. car out of something like this would be a no no. It is more a collectors car, not something you are going to use as a daily driver. A Sunday car. If your looking to buy something to fancy up. Get something more used. But the car istelf is most likely gorgeous. Post some pics when you get them.

Z28DJP1987

I am the original owner of 1987 Camaro IROC and I can speak from experience. The car is 16years old like mine and I about replaced everything that can be replaced on that car besides the body work. For examlpe for a few winters I didn't drive the car except to start it. Had more problems then I can put in this Post. So if you want a Garage Queen, then someone will spend the money. If I remenber a saying by Chevolet "meant to be driven" and not stored in my opinion.

JRNKLJB

I too bought my '87 IROC new and it currently has 11,000 miles on it. I have replaced the heater core, the hood struts, one headlight and the battery. Whos' to say though that if I started pounding it a bit harder and more often now, that I might be changing a lot more parts than I have in the past.

Cruzin Kaz

After "ANY" vehicle passes the 10 year old mark, wether it has 300,000 or 25,000miles, will need significatn repairs. It is called age. I have a 90 Lumina car, it has over 200,000km on it.I have put about $2000 into the car in the past year or so. This car get driven! Can you see what I am getting at??? Just because the car has only 22,000miles on it does not mean it needs repair just cause it has been sitting. It's time is up...time to replace some aged parts. Take it as you will, but I wouldn't be worried about the fact that it was taken care of and used more as a Sunday driver as a bad thing. IMO

83firebirdS/E

I'd say get it because you won't see another one like exactly what you want for a while. Talk him down to 10k.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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I got a .zip file with a bunch of pictures of it. It doesn't have the split back rear seats, the carpet on the trunk panels or power antenna or Bose, but it has power everything else and is 1 of 3,966 with the headliner console. The door panels of the Custom interior is falling as they all do in 87, (much like the 88-92 armrests) but the leather on the steering wheel is kinda worn and on the shift **** too a little. The rearview mirror is also not there in the pictures, but is suppossed to be the Self Adjusting 1. The interior is not perfectly clean either. The engine needs cleaning but otherwise it looks new. The original floor mats need replacing. I would not pay $11,500 for this car, I know people with low mile Third Gens and it is not in the same condition/quality they are in or near perfect. Its not a Van Nuys car which is good, but this is not car where every piece of it was meticulously maintained, maybe just cleaned once in a while. I did a CarFax and the only record is in 88 with 3,975 miles on it.

The odometer reads what looks like 22,000 exactly, looked like 32,000 to me but I think its correct. What gets me about this car, is that the front bumper looks repainted and not perfectly inline with the fenders. The 2 front hood stops are also Red when they are supposed to be Black, but I can't find overspray anywhere else if thats what it is. You can see clearly the stripes are not exactly where they're supposed to be, instead about a 1/2" above the GFX. And either the rear bumper isn't clean or there is paint chips.

GMTech

Way to much money IMHO. I doubt that is the only one like it, so there will be others. You should be able to find what you are looking for, for less than half what they are asking for.

smallwood

Personally, I couldn't mod ( or daily drive ) such an original car. Find a $4k special and enjoy.

'89 IROC Vert

A few things:

1) The car you just described sounds way to risky for $11k.

2) Why buy a pristine low mileage IROC just to mod it to the 12s? Buy a higher mileage one (60k) b/c the lower mileage one will have a premium price for its originality that you'll ruin with the mods. Why pay for what you don't need?

3) An interesting thing I heard once: "If can either buy a car that's a good deal, or you can buy the perfect car. But you'll always pay more for the perfect car."

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Because I want a car in like perfect condition and I can't find any that have a little more higher miles.

BOTTLEDZ28

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Please, I beg you, dont take a car with that many miles on it and destroy it. A car like that(if its orginal) needs to be a wekend only car and parked in a living room.

I made this mistake with my last car. I bought a 91z28 350 tpi with ttops(dealer installed and perfect job) that had 23,000 miles on it and I just started going nuts on it with parts. I basically butchered a nice car and now its gone. It burnt to the ground

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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I don't intend to do anything like that. It would always look stock int. and ext., the only mods would be mechanical. And I would keep all the stock stuff. On this car already the steering wheel and shift **** need replacing. The front bumper is possibly repainted and it needs a cleaning in the int. and in the engine. The door panels are also breaking away as 87's usually do to almost where you can't see the lines anymore. So this is not a really mint car. I know dudes with Third Gens with 6,000 miles, 40,000 miles, 10,000 miles and 8,000 miles, and it is not like them. The original floor mats, lets just say they need replacing. The interior needs more extensive cleaning. There is 2,000 mile mint Third Gens out there, this isn't 1 of them. I hope you understand what I'm saying. I'd also like to know how he parked the car at 22,000 miles exactly. The numbers aren't inline the way I think they should be either.

L98Jerry

Why would a 22,000 mile car have wear on the steering wheel,shifter, and floor mats? I finally replaced my steering wheel and shifter when mine had 160,000 miles. Something doesnt sound right dude. From the way you describe it I would bet it is a 122,000 mile car. If he wants $11,500 he evidently has more time on his hands than brains. Please dont even consider paying that kind of money for that car.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Oh I wouldn't, I posted that a few posts up. I'm starting to wonder alot about this car after looking at the pictures for a few hours.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Doh, forget about this car, its been hit before and I suspect odometer rollback. The search still goes on.

Cruzin Kaz

I was actually wondering when you said it had a worn Steering wheel cover and what not..sounds like a scam to me yeap...forget about that car...You'll find one.

Benny

Just buy it and drive it as much as you want, these thing are meant to be driven not like a Picasso, what are you going to do? buy it and look at it? Don't worry about mileage, too many people are hung up on that. When it gets old and well driven and you still want to keep it, just restore it. I drive my car 200 miles a week, and they only made 589 of them. Just drive it, enjoy it, do routine maintenance and keep it running good.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Exactly. Its 3 years of looking and still nothing with about $8000 or more to spend.

IROCThe5.7L

smallwood

At least you found out before you bought the car. And if the interior is that worn, I would almost guarantee odometer rollback.

Z28DJP1987

That $11,000 IROC was just another one just driven on Sundays.
I sure like these low milage IROC's:lala: :lala: :lala: At least I know the miles and condition of mine (original owner) and they were meant to Driven and Not Stored.

Benny

you said it!

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Yeah, its good to be an original owner. I can't take buying used cars. This is the 2nd car that has been hit that I was looking at. Its easy to tell its been hit before if you look close and play with the pictures and then you can also see the wear on the interior. Definetly rolled back. The numbers aren't inline where they're supposed to be and how did he park it at 20,000 exactly and take it for small rides and back it in out out once in a while without having an effect on the odometer?! Some people.

Z28DJP1987

Your right, everyone can not be a origional owner. So keep looking and good luck.

Justbrilliant5

Make sure it has the factory idle setting. That little aluminum cap on the throttle body should be intact. Look for the factory inspection tags on the master cylinder and vacuum hoses. This one should still have the tags on the springs..

raptoryfm660r

IROCZTWENTYGR8,

I feel your pain. You will find.

I am just thankful I just a have 1986. I have the looks you want just the wrong year.

I don't know what the future holds for mine its just there with a cover on it. I love pulling the cover back every once in awhile.

I need to start it!!!! The battery is charged.

Chet

87kevroc

GR8,

The car you're looking for is out there, and should not be that hard to find. Here's one on ebay: 87 IROC.

With cars as old as this, condition is everything. A well maintained 85,000 mile car is a smarter buy than one with 50,000 left to sit in the weather, w/o reg. maintenance, and then painted before selling it.

The hard part is determining the real condition of a car by emailing the owner with questions. He may give all the right answers, but until you see the car you don't know. What is 'excellent' conditon for one person may be another's 'fair'.

You should be able to find your car for no more than $6500.

edit: spelling

Benny

That is a great car and the reserve price is reasonable.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Exactly, sometimes a car with higher miles (not too high) is better. You are definetly right that 1 persons definition of perfect (mine means showroom new) is some1 elses of pretty good.

This car is not showroom new and not worth $11,500. There's some stuff going on with that car. If that car in your link was near me and a stock L98 it'd be mine.

scottmoyer

Ok, I didn't finish reading all the posts, but I need to set the record straight.

1. The overhead console production numbers are incorrect for 87. Since 1987 was the first year for option packages, Chevrolet got confused while documenting the parts count. They started counting the individual options, then they also counted the packages which might have included the indiviual parts. They stopped counting until they could figure out a more accurate method. 87 also said there are 901 auto dimming mirrors. This is way off.

2. The hood stops should be body colored in 87. My car was never repainted and the stops are dark red, like the car. I don't know why the rubber was put on prior to paint, but it was. I saw pics of the car the day it came home and the stops were red.

3. The front bumper cover will more than likely not match in color on a factory 87 paintjob. The parts were painted in 2 seperate areas of the factory with the same color, but were from different mixes. It's like putting up wallpaper, always get rolls from the same lot#. It's also common for them not to line up correctly. Quality control was not a high priority in the 80's.

4. If the car has 22k miles, the majority of all rubber and seals should be fine. My car had 6k miles on it in 2000 when I got it and it needed only a new EGR and tires. My hoses, belts, etc were and are fine. I did have some corrosion on the firewall relays, but they are cheap. An AC recharge with R12 cost me $290 recently.

The condition of this car sounds beat for a 22k mile car. It's probably still in nice condition, but the problems you stated sound excessive for such low mileage. I paid $10k for my IROC and it was fully loaded with everything. If you plan on modding the car, then this isn't the car to buy. Continue looking for the 65k mile car. It will cost less and you won't feel guilty about modding it. If there is any info I can answer on the 87 IROC and it's originality, let me know. Use my car as a reference to the seller that others have paid less for more of a car and see what he's willing to do.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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sm, you answered some extra questions I had, but I have more. Would you mind if I sent you some pictures of it and let you take a look for yourself since you know your stuff too and own the car I want except for the color and leather?!

scottmoyer

I don't mind, however, until the end of Feb, I am on a dialup connection. I am traveling in St Louis and the laptop is old and the dialup is slow, so take that into consideration when emailing.

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Sent.

scottmoyer

answered!

IROCZTWENTYGR8

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Thanks.