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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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Hello all!

I have a dream to build a really bad assed 3rd gen one day, and was looking for one particular car..

A 91-92 White Formula 350 WS6 5 speed hard top.

First, did they make this combo, and second, is it an unusual combo?

thanks for your info...
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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The 350 (L98) was never available with a 5spd from the factory. It was only offered with an automatic.

The 305 was available with a 5spd.

I think you will be able to find the car you described, except for the transmission.

FYI all thirdgen Formulas had WS6.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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The easiest way for you to get what you want is to buy a 305 TPI 5-speed car. Then swap the 305 for a 350. The only parts you'll have to change are the block, heads, injectors, and PROM.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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um wouldnt a more easier way be to buy a 350 car and swap the 700R4 auto for a 5 speed..?

trannys go for less then engines i would think
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by §teve
um wouldnt a more easier way be to buy a 350 car and swap the 700R4 auto for a 5 speed..?

trannys go for less then engines i would think
i would agree with you, except for the fact that a stock 5 speed can't handle a 350... need to put a different tranny in...
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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well under normal driving the T5 would be ok i think (just because ive read that a few times at this site lol) but ya if ur a little hard sometimes on the car...which who isant sometimes then ya ud need sometin else....
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Some people have had trouble keeping the 305 from breaking the 5 speed. All depends on how you drive I guess.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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well man as far as a 5 spd goes you'll have to get a beefy one to handle the 350
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Get a 6 speed from a 4th gen

John
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Yes, the T5 from 82-87 handled 280lb/ft max and the World Class T5 (88-92) took 305lb/ft max.

The stock 305 TPI with the non-peanut cam puts out 220hp and 300lb/ft torque... that's just 5 less than the WC.

A 350 must make at least 5lb/ft more than the 305!

But... a T56 from a 4th gen can take 450lb/ft max! And that's just a great mod anyway!
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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The six speed swap is rather involved right? I mean it is more than just a bolt in affair right?
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Old Feb 19, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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There are many posts about it I believe, and I do think it's kinda involved.

I know the crossmember needs to be changed/modified, there isn't a speedo cable hookup... so unless you have an electric speedo already, you need a speed sending unit (about $100)

The driveshaft might be different... but I'd check on that one!
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Car: 99 T/A Firehawk, 1991 Formula
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Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.42
Okay, so the drivetrain is optional. I was planning on swapping in a MN6 anyway...

How hard is it to find the White Hardtop? any idea on how many hardtops were made in 91-92??
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I have seen many Firebirds that are white... mostly GTAs. I have seen a few white Formulas around here, most always with gold trim/decals.

Check ebay and see how many are being sold... and how much they are going for. That's usually a little more than they are worth, but good for a ballpark figure.
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