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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Car: 89 Trans am
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How Much HP stock does my car have????

^ answer please

i saw it listed at 180 but that that was wrong and how much trq too??????
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Old May 10, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Car: 87 Irocz, 95 Z28, 71 Z28 /RS
Engine: 355 Tpi, LT1, 355
Transmission: Auto, Auto, 4sp
Model :Trans Am
Trans: M5,A4
Engine code/type :LO3 V8
CR 9.3:1
Displ 5.0 (305).
HP 170@4400
Torque 255@2400


right off of https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/tech/techdb.shtml

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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Car: 89 Trans am
Engine: TBI 350 HO Vortec heads
Transmission: 700R4
89 Trans am 305 LO3 engine and 700r4 trans. it says it under my name
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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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From: Tomball Texas, right outside (north) of Houston
Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
If its a 305 TBI LO3 it should have 170hp and 255trq, but it shouldn't be a 305 TBI if its a Trans Am it should have the TPI 305 LB9 unless it was a base Firebird with a sport appearance package and someone put the wing, tail lights, and hood of a Trans Am to make it look like a Trans Am
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Old May 10, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Car: 89 Trans am
Engine: TBI 350 HO Vortec heads
Transmission: 700R4
i put the vin in the vin decoder on this site i got this

Here are the results for your query on: 1G2FW21E7KL228422
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Pontiac
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Trans Am, Formula
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 L03 (1988-1992)
7 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1989
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 228422

pretty funny how on msn used autos a 89 trans am is 180 hp and a 92 trans am with the same engine is 205

i wish it was tuned port
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Old May 10, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Sure its not a Formula dressed up as a Trans Am?
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Old May 11, 2004 | 12:24 AM
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Car: 1989 Firebird Formula
Engine: Internal Combustion
Transmission: Completed
Axle/Gears: ones that turn.
The LO3 was the base engine on the 88-up Trans Ams, like the LG4 was the base engine up to 87.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 12:37 AM
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From: Tomball Texas, right outside (north) of Houston
Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
It looks like its a Formula made to look like a Trans Am and they never came with a LO3 the base engine was a 305 TPI, the formula had a base LO3 in 88-92
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Old May 11, 2004 | 06:28 AM
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Car: Formula
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: M5
From 1988- 1989, the base engine in the TA was the TBI. After that the 305 TPI was standard.

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Old May 11, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Car: 89 Trans am
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lol how can u guys ask if it a dressed up formula and its not a LO3 engine when the vin number it right there?
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Old May 11, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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Car: 2000 Trans Am and a 85 Iroc-Z
Engine: The Mighty LS1& 305 just beat meTPI
Transmission: 4L60E and 700R4
Yeah Iroc's had the same engine in those years. The TBI was a base engine. I learned that a few years ago after arguing with someone about it.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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From: Tomball Texas, right outside (north) of Houston
Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
Well I learn something new every day, its just that I have never seen a Trans Am or a Z28 with a LO3 I always thought that they had a LB9 as a base model in those years. I knew that they had the LG4 as a base motor but I thought when they dropped the LG4 as the base motor the 305 TPI became standard at the same time
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Old May 11, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Car: 89 Formula
Engine: 350
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It still shocks me how many people don't know this (that IROCs and Trans Ams had TBI) It should come as no surprise really---they both had LG4s too.


Oh one more thing---170hp is the offical figure but I have heard that they are 174hp!

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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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Car: 89 Trans am
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^170 hp my ***, its underated it has to be, no car makes 255 ft lbs and 170 hp, thats bull****, it was underated for insurance purposes.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Car: 89 Formula
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Originally posted by Borsty
^170 hp my ***, its underated it has to be, no car makes 255 ft lbs and 170 hp, thats bull****, it was underated for insurance purposes.
why would you say that? And why does no car make that??
Ford had a port injected 302 that made 150hp and 265lbs-ft.

Myabe your used to imports and small 4 clyinder engines. Thoise have very close hp and torque peaks. But large unsofisticated V8s are totally different.

I will assume your not to educated on such things. Try keep in mind the following facts on the L03.

-They have about the worst following heads Chevy ever made

- very restrictive exhaust

-an extremley mild camshaft (under .0400 lift)

- The engine is from Chevy/GMC pickup trucks

So, given 305 CID---torque comes pretty naturally--but the hardware doesn't do much for the hp.

It s amazing L03s are as fast as they are. My old IROC (TBI, auto 2.73) ran 16.2
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Old May 11, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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Car: 89 Firebird
Engine: L05 350 TBI
Transmission: 700r4-slippin' on it's last leg
More good news for ya, Borsty. 89-up TBI's also come with a speed limiter installed in there programming. 115mph is the top-off, even though your speedo probably says 120.
But the good news is, you can look in the tech articles as to how to bypass that.
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Old May 11, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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From: Tomball Texas, right outside (north) of Houston
Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
Originally posted by Borsty
^170 hp my ***, its underated it has to be, no car makes 255 ft lbs and 170 hp, thats bull****, it was underated for insurance purposes.

Its the truth the LO3 only made 170/255, as 871LEIroc said they have horrible heads and no cam its the lowest option V8 for those years
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Old May 14, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by steven90GTA
Its the truth the LO3 only made 170/255, as 871LEIroc said they have horrible heads and no cam its the lowest option V8 for those years
Most of the V8's even TPIs were like that in the 3rdGens... They L98 only made 245hp but like 350ish ft/lbs of torque...
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Old May 14, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Car: 88 IROC - 86 Trans Am
Engine: L98 Carbed - 350 Carbed and boosted
Transmission: auto - T5
Ya I don't see why its so hard to belive that TAs and IROCs came with LO3s. The LO3 is just about the same thing as the LG4. The LO3 was even a little better on gas. TAs and IROCs/Z28s had LG4s as their base engine through 87.
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Old May 15, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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From: Tomball Texas, right outside (north) of Houston
Car: 1990 GTA and 83,99,02 Trans Am WS6
Engine: 350 TPI,CrossFire 305 and LS1
Transmission: 4L60 and 700R4 and 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 90-3.23,83-3.42,99-3.73,02-3.42
I know that the IROCs and Trans Am's had the LG4 I just thought that when they dropped the LG4 completely in 87 that at the same time they made the LB9 the base engine for the Trans Am's and IROCs and left the LO3 as the base for the Formula, I thought this mainly because I have never seen a IROC or a Trans Am with the LO3 or ever heard them talked about in the same sentence before this post
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Old May 15, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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The "Big 3" haven't underrated engines for insurance purposes since the time of the 426 Hemi and the LS-6 454s... after those were retired, the power ratings actually were low enough that there was no reason to under rate anything anymore.

The only engines that "may" have been under rated were the L69 (it killed the slightly more powerful Corvette) and the TTA's Turbo V6, but that was for their own reasons. I like to think its because GM didn't want anything to seem more powerful than the Corvette, but others will say otherwise.
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