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Old 01-08-2019, 07:33 PM
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I will post some pics in the near future
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Here are a couple of pics, not very good, but difficult this time of year. When I bought the car, it had Bilstein shocks at all 4 corners. Would those have been installed at the factory? Is there a third gen camaro version of a Marti Report? Thanks


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Old 03-21-2019, 09:03 AM
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I'm a new member and an "old guy" so bear with me please! I have an '88 formula with 29,000 original miles on it. Bought it from original owner last fall. From what I have read there were only 1,222 with my configuration of lo3 and g80 limited slip. My feeling is out of 13,475 or so built mine is in the semi rare category. Have no pics to show as I am in Florida till end of April. Any comments or suggestions are certainly welcome! Thanks, Gary.
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I'm a new member and an "old guy" so bear with me please! I have an '88 formula with 29,000 original miles on it. Bought it from original owner last fall. From what I have read there were only 1,222 with my configuration of lo3 and g80 limited slip. My feeling is out of 13,475 or so built mine is in the semi rare category. Have no pics to show as I am in Florida till end of April. Any comments or suggestions are certainly welcome! Thanks, Gary.
Welcome to the boards...

There was 13,480 1988 Formulas, of those 6427 got the G80 limited slip, The L98 (2613) and the LB9 (2592) got the limited slip standard equipment, therefore G80 was only optional on the L03, which leaves us with 1,222 1988 L03's on the Formula getting the limited slip. Actually 732 Base firebirds also got the limited slip with the G80 as well with the L03... In 1987, you could have gotten the G80 on the LG4 (which the L03 replaced in 88) as well, but I do not have those numbers. In 1989 the G80 on anything except the LB9 & L98 were gone. Interestingly there was 1 Firebird and 1 Formula with the G80 and L03 in 1989 as well...

In the end, is it unusual? yes... In the grand scheme of things it is a neat option, but it comes down to the idea of how desirable it is. You have to ask how many people go on a mission to seek out a 1988 L03 with a G80, just so they can say they have it? Probably not many. Most owners probably are none-the-wiser about it as well...

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Re: READ ME! Before asking "Is my car rare/Desirable?"

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Welcome to the boards...

There was 13,480 1988 Formulas, of those 6427 got the G80 limited slip, The L98 (2613) and the LB9 (2592) got the limited slip standard equipment, therefore G80 was only optional on the L03, which leaves us with 1,222 1988 L03's on the Formula getting the limited slip. Actually 732 Base firebirds also got the limited slip with the G80 as well with the L03... In 1987, you could have gotten the G80 on the LG4 (which the L03 replaced in 88) as well, but I do not have those numbers. In 1989 the G80 on anything except the LB9 & L98 were gone. Interestingly there was 1 Firebird and 1 Formula with the G80 and L03 in 1989 as well...

In the end, is it unusual? yes... In the grand scheme of things it is a neat option, but it comes down to the idea of how desirable it is. You have to ask how many people go on a mission to seek out a 1988 L03 with a G80, just so they can say they have it? Probably not many. Most owners probably are none-the-wiser about it as well...

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That is a perfect summary John.....I agree!
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I can't imagine confirmed numbers are available but I know someone who has an 87 GTA that is totally bare bones. 5 speed LB9 with a bunch of SLP upgrades from new, but no power window's, locks, or mirrors. I was always under the assumption that power windows especially, were never optional on a GTA. Can anyone confirm?
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Thank you for the updated info! Not trying to make it worth more or anything like that. I will never part with it anyway. Just thought it would be a nice number to include on a car show display board. Instead of "1 of 13,480" I can actually say it is "one of 1,222"! Just sounds better, agree?
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Thank you for the updated info! Not trying to make it worth more or anything like that. I will never part with it anyway. Just thought it would be a nice number to include on a car show display board. Instead of "1 of 13,480" I can actually say it is "one of 1,222"! Just sounds better, agree?
True... Like I said it is a neat option and more or less a one year thing with the engine/trans.. Now, if it had a Manual Transmission that would make it all the more rare...
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I can't imagine confirmed numbers are available but I know someone who has an 87 GTA that is totally bare bones. 5 speed LB9 with a bunch of SLP upgrades from new, but no power window's, locks, or mirrors. I was always under the assumption that power windows especially, were never optional on a GTA. Can anyone confirm?
In 1987 the GTA was more or less just an Option for the Trans Am, therefore you could get a bare bones GTA. Starting in 1988 however this changed and they were all Loaded out as the GTA was then considered to be it's own model.

There are a few 87 GTA's out there like that, this is not the first I have heard of that was bare bones... I looked at a Black one 20 years ago.

Unfortunately the detailed data like I have for 86, 88-92 is missing for 87

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In 1987 the GTA was more or less just an Option for the Trans Am, therefore you could get a bare bones GTA. Starting in 1988 however this changed and they were all Loaded out as the GTA was then considered to be it's own model. I forget if it was 88 or 89, the LB9/A4 stopped being an option on the GTA thru the end of production in 1992... (GTA only having LB9/MM5 or L98 Engine options)

There are a few 87 GTA's out there like that, this is not the first I have heard of that was bare bones... I looked at a Black one 20 years ago.

Unfortunately the detailed data like I have for 86, 88-92 is missing for 87
Kinda neat. Though I'd prefer having it totally loaded. I may be misunderstanding but are you saying you can't get a post 88 or 89 GTA with an LB9 and automatic? I think that may be incorrect
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Kinda neat. Though I'd prefer having it totally loaded. I may be misunderstanding but are you saying you can't get a post 88 or 89 GTA with an LB9 and automatic? I think that may be incorrect
I was thinking of something else, I will change that so not to confuse future readers
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In the end, is it unusual? yes... In the grand scheme of things it is a neat option, but it comes down to the idea of how desirable it is. You have to ask how many people go on a mission to seek out a 1988 L03 with a G80, just so they can say they have it? Probably not many. Most owners probably are none-the-wiser about it as well...

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This is so true! Another good example: According to Compnine, there were only (257) 90 Formulas produced with the drivetrain/color/t-top combo that mine has. While that might be a rare number, I do not and have not ever seen internet posts/classifieds actively seeking out this exact combo like you do for TTAs, Firehawks, etc... I did find an identical twin to mine in rough faded shape for sale in GA a few weeks back. I think the Formula is a desirable car more so than a base Firebird, but I'm not convinced they are as valuable/desirable as say an IROC-Z or GTA.
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