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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 06:00 AM
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For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

The floppy visor syndrome is common to our cars. The problem lies in the hanger, not the visor itself. Note the silver "bullet-shaped" piece below. If that piece has broken free and rotates in its housing (the black piece), visor flop will occur. Fix? Some members have used JB Weld; some have drilled through the housing and visor insert (the silver piece) and used a roll pin. Perhaps the easiest fix is a trip to the bone yard. I bought a pair for two bucks. Other fixes are welcome.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Hmmm....I like the roll pin idea. 20 years from now, they will still be holding, rather than new ones wearing out again.

Mine mostly hold, but on bigger dips and bumps, they droop. Or if I put my CD holder on them, the extra weight makes it droop, just through regular driving, nut just dips and bumps.
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

I use velcro to keep them up. Even with the top down they stay put.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

The use of Velcro eventually aided in dragging down the headliner in my coupe.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

The pin becoming loose in the casting it one source for the floppy sunvisor. You could also have a broken or missing plastic sleeve. The sleeve is tightened by the screw to provide tension to the pin and prevent movement. If your pin doesn't rotate in the casting, then the sleeve could be the problem. I've had both problems causing the symptom.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

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The use of Velcro eventually aided in dragging down the headliner in my coupe.

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Yeah. I don't have one of those.
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 05:40 AM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Originally Posted by lonsal
You could also have a broken or missing plastic sleeve.
Here's a link to the sleeve that Lon mentioned:

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/pro...roducts_id=155

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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Thanks ...that is the help I was looking for...
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Always here for you, 86 .

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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

I had the same problem with my visors falling down all the time and found a very simple solution. Just push the visor about 2 inches towards the windshield until it feels tight then theres enough pressure on it so it doesnt fall down. Ive had mine liek that for about 2 years and they dont come down going over trian tracks speed bumps etc.
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Old Nov 10, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Originally Posted by Frozer!!!
I had the same problem with my visors falling down all the time and found a very simple solution. Just push the visor about 2 inches towards the windshield until it feels tight then theres enough pressure on it so it doesnt fall down. Ive had mine liek that for about 2 years and they dont come down going over trian tracks speed bumps etc.
I tried that and it worked for about a day or two...So i just went out and bought some JB Weld and fixed the rotating bullet and also ordered a new pair of plastics inserts from TDS (mine were a lil worn) Good as new!
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:54 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

(Old thread Revival)
The first thing I did was go back to my parts cars... Then I discovered there was two styles, I later found out that the Hard Top and T-top/convertible types are different. One had the same problem, so that was no good, and another was corroded, so I really did not want to use that one either...

Ultimately I used superglue, the real thin runny stuff... stood the arm on end, and then let it run in... Works like a charm.. And it is invisible, I cannot even tell I did it.

I have also been told that you can sometimes tap them in with a hammer, there is some knurling on them so it works about 50% of the time (Thanks Drew)

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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:56 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

This topic (if not already in existence) might make a nice mini tech article.
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

Has anyone out there tried transplanting the visors from another car? The visors on my Firebird were both as limp as a piece of cooked spaghetti when I bought it, so I took them off. I'm pretty tall, and it wasn't a problem to me, but my son complains about not having a visor on his side.
I already disassembled my old visors, and the "bullet" mentioned above turns freely and can't be fixed with inserts.
I'd try the JB-weld/superglue trick, but I always thought that the visors on these cars were pretty pathetic to begin with; they don't even come close to covering all of the top area. Also, I would like something with a built-in mirror.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions?
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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 10:26 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

I think doing what you are proposing would be easier on a coupe than a T-top car. The T-top cars have a contoured sun-visor that I think are unique to the F-body. The coupe on the other hand are mor like your typical sunvisor that I think you could simply find another car and install them

GM used to be a company that used tons of similar parts from car to car... Outside Door Handles for example were used on dozens and dozens of different model cars, with minor variations. The Steering columns pieces and parts were all the same in the 80's. I would think if you went to a junkyard and found something with a similar screw pattern you could probably install it. Some of the integrated mirror sunvisors I have seen lately have a support toward the center of the car, I think if you got something with an integrated mirror it may sag some...

I do not know, just a thought... The only thing you can do is go scour the yards for a set and see what you can do with them.

John
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Old May 13, 2013 | 06:37 PM
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Re: For Those With Floppy Sun Visors

(REVIVAL)

I took my floppy visors apart, chucked them up in the vise with the aforementioned "bullet" pointing straight up and dribbled RED loctite around the base of the bullet while spinning it until all the bubbles came out and I couldn't add anymore loctite, (about 2 minutes for each side) Let them sit overnight and re assembled -- worked like brand new -- now we get to see just how long they last.....
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