KRACKER JACK

does any body know if a 94 steering coulumn will fit in a 90 camaro my turn signals dont work is why im doing it. thanks

fast377

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Physically, yes it will fit. I don't know about the turn signal switch working though. If that's the only reason you want to change, why don't you just put a new switch in your existing column?

KRACKER JACK

i think it is easier to swap the whole thing the switch that is in it was done not to long ago and something came loose in it the arm just bounces around

Dante93GTZ

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IIRC, swapping the turn signal lever isn't that bad.

ghettocruiser

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It will bolt in. Many of the electrical connections will work. HOWEVER...the shaft is longer after the firewall. It will also be clocked 90* vs. the thirdgen shaft, so your stock intermediate shaft wont work.

A lot of guys have used Astro Van intermediate shafts with success....but it still involves modifying the shaft if I remember correctly.

Fix your turn signals and retain your original steering column. Tear it down to the tilt mechanism (if you have tilt) and loctite those 3 torx bolts one at a time while you are at it...save yourself the frustration down the road.

J.

Trevmust

If I'm doing a 4th gen interior with 4th gen wiring wouldnt it be easier to use a 4th gen column?

ghettocruiser

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Not necessarily. There is no physical difference in the column on the inside of the firewall. Pretty sure all of the electrical parts are the same. At least the ones that I checked out were the same. Cruise might be different.

If you use it, you will have to do modifications in the engine bay with the intermediate shaft. Either use an astro van shaft or you'll have to do something else.

Even if you want to use the Astro shaft, you have to be aware that the DD shaft of the 4th gen column is 90* off from the thirdgen. BUT..the Astro van shaft ends are not aligned on 90*. You'd still have to clock one of the ends if you want you box to be centered along with your wheel. At least Im pretty sure on all of that..haha.

Check to see if the 4th gen wiring will plug into the thirdgen column and function. If so, dont even bother with the 4th gen column.

J.

Trevmust

okay, cuz the shell I'm buying doesnt come with a column and I'm looking at a 95 firebird for 550 for the interior (but getting the whole car)

RockJay81

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I know this is old but what if you trim down the end of the shaft of the colum? I have the astro van steering shaft and it sounds like it would work.

alex722607

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I just did this swap in my GTA (because I have steering wheel controls and my cam for it was goofy) the only thing that you need is a column and the astro van intermediate shaft. I do have to say that the 4th gen cancel switch for the turn signals feels like it's stuck in honey as opposed to the 3rd gen one that felt like it was going to snap everytime I used it. - then again I have steering wheel controls on that 3rd gen column- so all the parts related are impossible to find so replacing the 3rd gen column parts was never an option.

RockJay81

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Sounds good. I have the astro van shaft. I'll make a thread when I buy the 4th gen column. Thanks bro.

QUICKCHICKEN

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Looking forward to your report, having a way to update the column would be great.

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PAformula

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So any astro van intermediate shaft will work? I'm considering trying this swap if i cant repair my '91 tilt column.

Thanks.

alex722607

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It worked for me. I dont recall the details as it was 3 years ago that it was struck and totalled but eliminating the rag joint on the stock intermediate shaft definitely felt better. The astro van is very similar to the later 4th gen fbody which doesnt use a rag joint. I still have it for a future firebird so I can take a picture of it.

sshoureas

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Keep in mind the 4th gen column will have the ugly airbag steering wheel unless a third-gen wheel will fit on a 4th gen column?

PAformula

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Thanks for calling my steering wheel ugly, cuz I already have an air bag wheel. But yes, older steering wheels will bolt on.

sshoureas

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I've had several of them too so no offense but the older three spoke sport wheels just seem more attractive. Good to know the parts interchange back and forth though!

PAformula

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None taken, im not a fan of the air bag wheel either.

alex722607

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Little rusty because i never coated it but thats what worked.
If you have a gta radio control wheel and the original clock spring starts acting funny like mine did you can modify the wheel to accept the 4th gen column with the new clockspring coil that has provisions for the radio controls. .... if this makes sense

PAformula

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Thanks Alex, so the astro van shaft does not need modified then with the 4th gen column?

alex722607

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Nope.

PAformula

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Alex, did you have to swap over your turn signal/wiper switch from the 3rdgen column? My wiper switch in my 91 column quit and there's no replacement that i can find. If i do the 4thgen column from a car with delay wipers and cruise, are the connectors the same?

scooter

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The connectors are the same, but depending on the year of your car, the 4th gen wiper switch will not work for your wiper motor. The switch is transferable from your 3rd gen column to the 4th though, it is the same design for mounting.

scooter

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double post

alex722607

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^what he said. In my case 4th gen one worked. It depends what your car was optioned with

PAformula

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My car is a 91 with cruise and delay wipers. Is there a year range of 4th gens that the connectors match up?

By the way, my wiper switch quit working.