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My Swap: Step by Step

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:25 PM
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From: Rockville, MD
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: Ellis Juan
Transmission: t-56
My Swap: Step by Step

LSx Swap:
I am providing a parts and price breakdown and write up for all those interested in this swap. My swap is a little different because of the head and cam package. The same basic concept stays true or similar swaps. Enjoy.
Parts List:
20,000 mile LQ4 Short block 650 shipped
L92 truck heads 830 shipped (260cc/90cc, 330 @ .600/ 224 @ .600, 68.9cc)
LS7 stock cam 85 shipped (210/230, .550/.550 w/ 1.7/.590/.590 w/ 1.8, 120)
6.0 manifolds 50 shipped
L76 “Aussie” car intake 375 shipped (price is high because it was acquired before their release)
Patriot Gold Spring Kit 240 shipped
Holley 90mm LS2 Cable TB 406 shipped (price matched at Byunspeed.com)
Offset Intake Rockers/Rocker Supports 92 shipped
Used LS1 fuel rail 75 shipped
Used Delphi 42# injectors 250 shipped
Used T56 Trans w/ Bell, Hydraulics, Pro 5.0, McLeod Adj Master, Spec3x, Spec Aluminum Fly 1700 shipped
Ram HD Clutch set 385 shipped
Spohn Swap T/A 395 shipped
Spohn Swap mounts 85 shipped
Walbro 255lph In-Tank 98.95 shipped
4th Gen. Manual Trans. Pedals 75 shipped
ARP Head Bolts 136.88 shipped (summit)
Cometic Head Gaskets 150 shipped
Texas Speed Cam Swap Gasket Kit 48 shipped
ARP Intake Stainless Bolts 22.88 shipped (summit)
ARP Flywheel Bolts 24.88 shipped (summit)
ARP Pressure Plate Bolts 16.88 shipped (summit)
Used F-Body Front Accessories 100 shipped
AN line and Fittings 170 shipped (summit)
Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator 134 shipped
Used F-Body Oil Pan, Windage Tray, and Pickup 150 shipped
Used F-Body Balancer 50 shipped
Stand Alone Fuse box 100 shipped
Fuel Pressure Gauge 35 shipped
Motor mounts 50 shipped
ECU 110 shipped



The said list will be updated as the project moves along. This car is an 89 Camaro RS that originally had a TBI 305 and 700R4. Currently it has a dilapidated and non-running 4 bolt 350ci small block from the late 70s. The cam was too big, the pistons cracked and broken, and a whole lot of rust. The reason for this swap is power and efficiency, something my planned 383 surely wouldn’t be able to accomplish (all of which is for sale).
I started out by cleaning, inspecting, and prepping the short block for my new, shiny, super pimp, L92 heads. The Cometics I chose are 4.030 x .030 to give me ~9.6:1 SCR and a DCR of ~8.3 with the LS7 cam advanced 4*(depends on if i get an adjustable timing set). I decided to stick with the stock lifters for the time being as I am not going to rev the **** out of this setup. In the future the Katech CTS-V.R lifters will be used because they are good to over 8500 RPM. The valve train setup still needs to be completed.. Go figure that advances in the internal combustion engine make certain tools obsolete.. more importantly… spring compressors. I had to buy a new compressor because the offset rockers will not allow safe use of the Crane compressor. Oh well, huh?
Here’s a picture of the heads torqued down in their new home(85ft/lbs for the big bolts, 29ft/lbs for the small bolts):


Currently the intake is sitting bolted atop the engine. I am still waiting for the TB and a few various parts. The intake’s flow is on par and past that of the FAST 90mm intake setup so you can see the huge cost advantage in this setup. Now, the stock LS1 fuel rails can be used on the L76 intake with minor modifications. The mounting brackets have to be bent to match the bolt pattern and spacers be bought or made. The Delphi injectors I am using will need bigger o-rings because the stock injector bores are bigger than usual:


Modded Fuel Rail:

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Old Dec 2, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Looks great so far
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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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Car: 88' Iroc-Z
Engine: LQ9
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
i have a thred on this about people using the l92/l76 combo maybe you can post a little more in that are since i think your the only one on TGO so far with the set up. And can lay down first hand experience with the parts. from what i understand though the l92 heads wont work on an ls1/ls6 type block due to bore size..... i'm not familiar with the iron blocks i'm guessing it has a 4inch bore or can be bored to that much?

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Old Dec 5, 2006 | 11:16 PM
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From: Rockville, MD
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: Ellis Juan
Transmission: t-56
Originally Posted by 87CIZ
i have a thred on this about people using the l92/l76 combo maybe you can post a little more in that are since i think your the only one on TGO so far with the set up. And can lay down first hand experience with the parts. from what i understand though the l92 heads wont work on an ls1/ls6 type block due to bore size..... i'm not familiar with the iron blocks i'm guessing it has a 4inch bore or can be bored to that much?
im using a 6.0l block and it has a 4" bore which is the minimum for these heads.
Update: dont use compressor in link for duals. had a little spring mishap..oops
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619438
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Old Dec 17, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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From: Rockville, MD
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
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Transmission: t-56
o look, an update:
i finally finished off installing the springs and such. it got a little too dark and chilly to find a way to put the cam in. heres a couple pictures.


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Old Dec 27, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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From: Beloeil, Quebec
Car: IROC-Z
Engine: LSx
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: Fabbed 9"
Very nice man, I cant wait to see how it runs. Im looking foward for that setup too
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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Re: My Swap: Step by Step

RaverRacerX - has any progress been made on your swap? I'm very curious to see how it turns out.

Where did you buy the LQ4 short block?
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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From: Readsboro, VT
Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Re: My Swap: Step by Step

Yeah, I'm curious too. I've been thinking about an LQ4 swap with L92 heads, and voila! Here's somebody doing it. Now that you can get the L76 intake package from GMPP with a throttle body, injectors and rails for $500, the L92 heads look even more appealing. Better yet, SDPC has a set of L92 heads that are modified to run up to .600 lift for an extra $100/each.

I do have a couple questions if you don't mind:

What items do you need to change in order to use the LQ4 in the car? Does the oil pan fit? What about accessories? Do they all fit or do you have to use f-body accessories?
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