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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 07:18 PM
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I got bored with the power in my 1989 Formula 350.
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370rwhp just seems slow now.

Figured its time for an LS1 swap. Purchased the following:
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2002 LS1 complete, 4L60e, camaro seats, etc.

Sold the seats, transmission, ecm and wiring, motor mount stands, cam and springs (aftermarket comp cam), water pump etc and recooped about $2100 so I'm into this thing pretty cheap.

This is whats left
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On order, is a set of 799 heads (same casting as LS6 heads) that I am going to send to Advance Inductions for their CNC job. Also purchased my single biggest mod evarrrr and got a Magnuson TVS2300 on the way. Its the same blower they use on the new ZL1 Camaro and ZR1 vette.
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I'll order a cam from Alvin at PCM of NC (Formerly PCMForLess) and he's thinking I'll make about 650hp. That should suffice

I will update this post as I acquire parts/work on the car. I'm excited!

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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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Your excited? I'm excited and its not even my car. Very nice.
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 10:05 PM
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Very nice score! Going to a t56?
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Old Jun 20, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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Nice. Car should be a blast when completed.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 06:06 AM
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my car already has a t56 so Im just going to convert it for use with an LS1
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 07:49 AM
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Nice Justin, I envy your S/C'er, im building an LSx 1st gen but im going a twin m90 twin custom plenum (twin TB's) route. hoping for 700hp or better. Look forward to seeing this monster in your car.
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Old Jun 21, 2013 | 10:53 PM
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Can't wait to see this build, I've always thought doing a maggie on top of an ls1 would be a blast, but im too attached to my stock hood. Keep us updated!
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Good luck. I was tempted on doing a ZL1/LSA white formula also. Still up in the air on what to do with that engine.

Btw ZL1 blower=TVS 1900, ZR1=TVS 2300,
Both completely different than a Maggie 2300.
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Old Jun 22, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

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Btw ZL1 blower=TVS 1900, ZR1=TVS 2300,
Both completely different than a Maggie 2300.
I think SLP makes the TVS' right? I'm interested to see what kind of numbers the magnacharger puts down. I've heard of people getting 1000HP out of them, but haven't ever seen the results.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 12:14 AM
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I think SLP makes the TVS' right? I'm interested to see what kind of numbers the magnacharger puts down. I've heard of people getting 1000HP out of them, but haven't ever seen the results.
All TVS blowers are a patented design, and manufactured by Eaton. I believe Magnacharger, Rousch and Edelbrock are distributors of these units and they incorporate intake manifolds and intercoolers for specific engines.
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 01:13 AM
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If you're sending your 799 heads to get CNC, why not go with 317 heads. They're cheaper and will also lower your compression. Allowing you to turn up the boost a bit more.

Will you be going with forged pistons?
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 09:59 AM
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mmm, drooling.. now adays id much rather a 6.0 and a maggie vs my 383lt1 with 78mm turbo
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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im going to gamble on a stock ls1 for now. should last me a few years while I buikd a nice iron block
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 11:07 AM
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oh if i ever were to hit the lottery, i do stuff like this lol
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Old Jun 23, 2013 | 11:40 AM
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This looks like a promising thread. Believe I'll be keeping an eye on this. Car looks good too.
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good looking car. its gonna roll out and sound awesome with that.pd blower.
wheels look real good as well. never seen those before
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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you've never seen firehawk wheels before? Same that were made specifically for the 92 firehawks by Ronal wheels
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you've never seen firehawk wheels before? Same that were made specifically for the 92 firehawks by Ronal wheels
never before, or if i have. they didnt stand out like on this car.
i dont think ive seen an actual 3rd gen firehawk, ever.up close. i had no idea they came w special wheels.
look dam good

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Bout time you switched! Lmao
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Old Jun 24, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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What you lookin for as far as power goal at tire?
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Looks like a fun swap. Just a quick question, why sell the ECM and wiring harness? What are going to use instead?
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

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Looks like a fun swap. Just a quick question, why sell the ECM and wiring harness? What are going to use instead?
Hes already running the 411 ecm and OBD2 harness in his car. He did the conversion on the old SBC years ago when I did mine. All he will have to do is add a few wires and connectors. I converted mine in about 2 hours watching TV lol.



As for Justin, your making me work more OT now. Always trying to out do me!! lol
Cant wait to see it finished! Let me know if your still going to go with AI. I have connections at TEA.
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my heads are at ai right now.

things look like they will be progressing faster than expected. im taking a deposit on my engine tomorrow
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What you lookin for as far as power goal at tire?
550 now. 700+ once I have an iron block and good rotating assembly
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Damn over 700rwhp w/ a 2.3? What size motor 454?
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Consult Brian Tooley for a cam and thank me later.... Badass build. Stormtrooper inspired? Sure looks like
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Damn over 700rwhp w/ a 2.3? What size motor 454?
Don't need huge cubes to get that number. Just the right combo.
Originally Posted by cam-
Consult Brian Tooley for a cam and thank me later.... Badass build. Stormtrooper inspired? Sure looks like
Yes, he's an awesome guy to spec your cam at no extra cost.
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Can't you build an aluminum block to handle 700rwhp? One of the whole points of going LSX is the aluminum block no? :/
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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no not really lol.

I'm sure you could make that power, I'm just not doing a ***** out build right now. 550hp on a stock block is pretty safe, and I'm sure I'll be happy with +200hp for awhile. I'll start another engine in a few years when the bank account recovers
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and yes I've been in contact with brian tooley.
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I love the storm trooper car, but honestly I've wanted to do a supercharged LS1 in my car for a very long time. Its possible Bruce got the idea from me
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Sounds like it is going to be a nice build.
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Old Jun 26, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

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Its possible Bruce got the idea from me
Very true, we all draw inspiration from each other around here. Badass build all the way man, cant wait to see it all done
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Just spent some time on hawks site and ordered:

1 7/8" Stainless works headers
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

Man, I hate to tell you this, but.... You are absolutely going to love the Maggie.

I hit 507 RWHP with a 1900 on a stock LS1 with stock heads, so a 2300 on better flowing heads should easily hit 550. I gained 10HP opening the cut-out on 1-3/4" SSW, so the 1-7/8" should be an awesome choice.

Have fun.

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degreased and steam cleaned the engine bay twice. Dropping the car off at the body shop tomorrow to really paint and clean the engine bay well. When the new motor is in, anything extra will be removed. I want it to look CLEAN!
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

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Looks great!!!! I need some boost in my life
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 06:58 AM
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UGH this is exactly what I wanted to do. That maggie is gonna look, sound, and run awesome with that combo. Great choices!

Cant wait to see this car come together.

Good luck!

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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 11:29 AM
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Nice choice....those blowers are awesome. I just have a little mp112 but it will still put the car sideways at 60mph. The torque these blowers make is outstanding. It's the perfect choice for a street car.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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how does your car run with the 4.11s? I'm fearing that I'll need to step down to 3.55s
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Car: 1985 IROC-Z
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Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

First gear is real short. It was a hand full when I first started driving the car but now that I'm used to it, they are fine. Eventually I will step down to a 3.50 gear though.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 02:26 PM
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Car: 85 IROC-Z / 88 GTA
Engine: 403 LSx (Pending) / 355 Tuned Port
Transmission: T56 Magnum (Pending) / T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 / ?
Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

That's going to be a great combo. I'm holding on to my 317 heads, because if I ever get bored with the N/A LS3-headed motor, those 317s with a maggie would make a big improvement.
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Old Jul 1, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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Car: 89 IROC
Engine: LSX 6.0 370, TU2 Cam, Fast intake
Transmission: T56 w/ lots of goodies
Axle/Gears: 8.8, Posi, 4.10, 31 Spline
Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

Oh man I cant wait to see your car done as its what I wanted to do to mine awhile back and then got the turbo idea. Well that just went out the window and I know what my winter project will be lol.

Oh the wife is gonna hate me for sure LMAO
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Old Jul 5, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Car: 89 formula 350
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Axle/Gears: 4.11 Dana 44!
Re: LS1 Swap Crew: This is my Supercharged LS1 swap thread

just ordered a monster stage2 clutch, ac compressor and alternator, and a fan shroud for the 3 row champion aluminum radiator. going with a pair of spal or flexalite fans. I need to move some serious air through a heat exchanger, ac condenser, and radiator now.


contemplating a mufflex 4" catback
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 11:22 PM
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just picked up a mufflex 4" catback with magnaflow race series muffler researching SPAL fans now.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 05:11 AM
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What's wrong with the factory fan? I run the maggie HE, A/C and a big Griffin on the stock single fan and have never had a heating issue.
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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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rather be safe than sorry!
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