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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Someone elses problem now....

I got my Iroc down at Eric's shop. He and Bennie are gonna' see if they can find out what is wrong with her.

I think I should offer a reward to the first guy that finds out what is wrong.

It looks fast though...even if it runs like crud.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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I was up there yesterday they didn't get to look at it but I think its first on the list today

your car is hella clean and I love those rims
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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uh oh...
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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Pics!

Well i would think Bennie finds out what is wrong with it as Eric doesn't work on the cars.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 06:49 PM
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thanks terrell for the compliments.

yeah, I told Bennie he can just keep the thing down there till' he finds out what's wrong.

Will- not the puter...already switched that out (stole eric's)

Del, I can't seem to post good pics of the ride...perhaps eric can snap some off while it's at the shop

I'd like to see a pic from underneath like from under a lift.

those rims ARE scary lookin' huh?...a bit serious...no bling.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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well david you adjusted your rocker arms again correct?

when bennie and i were workin on it today, it sounded like your rocker arms were misadjusted or hitting part of the valve covers,

we are gonna check it out more tommorrow

and del i do work on cars when bennie tells me to or i feel like it other than that i dont
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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I sit corrected then.

Hope it turns out to be something small and overlooked David.
I want to see it in motion and at the track!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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nope, not since the cam went in. timing is at 8 deg. that was the only change since last week.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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how did you pre load the rockers?
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Re: Someone elses problem now....

Originally posted by irocdaddy
It looks fast though...even if it runs like crud.
Story of my 305.
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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it doesnt run like crud though.. thats normal for a 305
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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ill help you!
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 02:46 PM
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Damn, I was hoping it was the computer David. Oh well, hope they find out what's wrong soon and we can see her at the track. Good luck, post some pics when you can.
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Old Aug 25, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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doesnt look like any sensors are bad, i believe bennies tested them all, still workin on it although wont get much done tommorrow he has to get that pos rustang out of there
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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thanks for the update Eric-

maybe maf relays?
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Old Aug 26, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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snap'd a pic when I was at the shop today
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 01:28 AM
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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That pic looks weak...I need a paint job.
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Old Aug 27, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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David I kinda like the whole green / black / grey on red job.

Looks like an IROC with a black eye.

But in all honesty it is a VERY clean car, love those "wheels" but they need billet Camaro caps.
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Old Aug 28, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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David, pic looks nice, your car looks clean and straight, just needs a little paint, no big deal. It's best to get the mech. issues worked out first then deal with looks, etc.
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Old Aug 29, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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If Eric's Super Rammed motor is running before mine I may just puke.


I'll take ya' on with my tpi.....I figure you'll be heavy footed and just sit there while I clip off a steady 13.2 huh?
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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Well. Eric and I were talking, and we are going to try a different o2 sensor. That is the only thing that hasn't been replaced thus far......
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Hope that actually fixes it David, good luck and let us know.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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can someone please put my 02 in????????
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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its not the o2
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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it has to be that 02
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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Maybe its the ECM

or maybe it is the O2
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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UPDATE!!!!

IT WAS THE 02!!!!!!

JUST NEED TO SET MY BASE TUNE AND I WILL BE READY FOR DYNO DAY.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 10:30 AM
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Nobody use that tb cleaner on the shelf that says it's sensor safe...hosed up my plugs/mat/o2.


gumout I think is the brand.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Drove it again and it's still the same. It's not ready until I say so. It's not the O2.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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Drove it again and it's still the same. It's not ready until I say so. It's not the O2.

didnt do it for me drove it on the dyno for ever
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:40 AM
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didnt do it for me drove it on the dyno for ever
thats why your the automotive secretary
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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maybe we should put a 02 in that doesn't have the f@#$% wire job that the one I dropped off had?
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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F up wireing, ya, might be good to replace it with a new one David. I hope it turns out it really is just the O2, keep us updated.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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I'm curious as to why you think an O2 sensor could cause a no-start condition? O2 is not looked at until after the engine is running.

Heck, just unplug the darn thing, ECM bias shuold be around 450mv and will run forever that way (albeit with poor a/f ratio).

Does it have spark on no-start? How about injector pulse?

Both thing easy to check with noid lights and spark checker.

Come to think about it, MAF car wil start and run with MAT, TPS, MAF and O2 (probally something else as well) all electrically disconnected. Might get hard to start situation with CTS out of the loop though, never tried it.
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I'm curious as to why you think an O2 sensor could cause a no-start condition? O2 is not looked at until after the engine is running.

Heck, just unplug the darn thing, ECM bias shuold be around 450mv and will run forever that way (albeit with poor a/f ratio).

Does it have spark on no-start? How about injector pulse?

Both thing easy to check with noid lights and spark checker.

Come to think about it, MAF car wil start and run with MAT, TPS, MAF and O2 (probally something else as well) all electrically disconnected. Might get hard to start situation with CTS out of the loop though, never tried it.
this isnt a no start you should read the entire post before posting

this is a drivability diagnose, only in closed loop mode,
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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Well, there's nothing in this post that says what the problem is, please paste it if you see it.

I did a search on the IROCDADDY's name for posts, and only problem I see him reporting is "drive the car for a bit and get it to operating temp, shut it off and it won't start"...sometimes "chugs".

Sure sounds like a no-start to me? Not drivability.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Here's the only thread I see about him posting a problem, other than a few "how's it work" questions:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=315987

Did he report a different condition to your shop that I don't know about?

I'm here to help. Don't try to put me down.

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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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Damn, chill out a bit Eric, take it easy on 8Mike9.

Anyway, from what I understand his car starts fine on cold starts, and idles fine as well, I have seen and heard it for myself. Once it warms up the cars idle starts to swing from 500 to almost 3000, then it just dies and won't start again until cold. Hope this is somewhat accurate, forgive me if I am wrong David and Eric. Hope this helps you out some 8Mike9.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:49 PM
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Thanks Will, but no-one needs to take it easy on me...if ya think I'm a ding-a-ling, cool, just tell me why and show me my mistake

Maybe I missed something about Irocdaddys problem...heck, I've done the "read before you post" thing before too.

Yo Porky...no issues here, huh? As I mentioned before, I'm only here to try to help...even the best shops need a little prodding and poking sometimes.
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Will, based on your descripition, I'd take a quick note of the IAC counts and see what they are doing. If fluctauting, then I'd disconnect the IAC and see if it stabalizes. If so, I'd get into idle control parameters.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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you guys should hire this guy! ^

told ya its not the 02, now gimme my twenty
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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I'm flattered..all the attenion here.....

TraviZ- of all people you should know we had checked the iac like what? months ago? Bennie and I both have scanners.

I'm gonna' stay with my orig. idea...it's the 02. it reads but........
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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is it setting any codes at all
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Good stuff here.
He said "ding-a-ling", haha.
I like how 8Mike9 is prepared and reads before he posts.
Looks like you're makin' Bennie earn his $$ David.
I imagine it's harder to diagnose when it's far from stock.
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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you guys should hire this guy! ^

told ya its not the 02, now gimme my twenty
Lol, they'd make me work for a living then. Blow my whole lifestyle.



Irocdaddy, what is the actual problem? Maybe we can kick around a few ideas that get's you on the road? Worst case is that the car stays in the shop, best case is it get on the road.

I think I saw mention that the shop owner (Bennie?) is on the boards, maybe he can post some info as well, and we can toss some ideas his way to lend a hand. I know I'd be wanting it out if it were in my driveway for a few weeks
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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hey hey heres an idea that no one mentioned..

starter heatsoak= weak starter to turn over that high compression zz4

:P
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Old Sep 11, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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the problem is an irratic idle at operating temps. do an o2 perfomance test that should tell you if its bad/lazy or good
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