till the '09 camaro makes it debut to the public, better start saving. i know i am.

 

have you seen the "leaked pics" of the "actual" concept. Looks very futuristic.

 

yes

 

I hate to say it but GM isn't good with concept cars. they look perfect as concepts but when they go into production lots of things don't make it, and just cause its a concept doesn't mean they plan to make it.

fail concepts:
SSR
Belair
Nomad
Borrego
Silverodo SST(AKA silverado SS)
Colorado SS
GTO
stingray, tiger shark, blue devil(super corvette's)
and many more

I do think/hope they bring the camaro back and if they do Im sure lots of things on the concept wont make it into prduction

 

I was thinking after looking at how the supposed concept is gonna have true duals, and thought that they aren't going to use the LS2 cause that means that the Camaro engine and the corvette enginge will have the same power.

It makes more sense now that they would use an LS4 type 5.3l for price and the ability to compete without bridging on the corvett's power.

Hope that my theory is wrong and that won't be the case.

 

Traditionally the corvette and fbody have shared the same engine - at least for the past 20 years. In 1987 they started sharing the L98, in 1993 they started sharing the LT1 and in 1998 they started sharing the LS1. And the power levels didn't change either, they just underrated the fbody and made the corvette lighter.

They'll likely be using whatever the corvette is whenever it comes out.

 

never mind

 

 

nevermind i understand what you mean now "they shared" iam just not fully awake yet lol no i have to go work on a 5.0 mustang now fun stuff

 

I think the LS1 was the only motor that was the same in the f/y-body, and was some what underrated. most of the motors where different

crossfire- 305
tpi- different heads(L98 vette/B2L f-body)
LT1- think they had different cams
LS1-same less exhaust and tunning

I think the new camaro will have another genIV motor with more hp than the LS4 but less than the LS2 or what ever the vette will have. I here some talk about an LS3 but I don't know the details of it.

 

If tradition serves right, yes GM will use the LS2. By the way what options is there besides the 6.0l motors and the 5.3l motors? My uderstandig is that the 5.7 is no longer available for use.

 

maybe I hear the vette will get a new motor in a couple years a 6.2L or 6.4L with 450hp

Im also hearing more about this super corvette 6.9L S/C good for 600+hp

edit: yeah the 5.7 is no more everything that used it now uses the 6.0L LS2 vette, GTO, CTS-V

 

cool. Hey where do you find all this stuff out, you seem to be very up to date on everything.

 

The new Camaro looks sweet, but as Terrell said, they almost always never even come close to looking like that. I still wouldn't mind owning one, by 09 I should have the money to buy one. I love how they resemble the 69, I hope they keep some of the looks, I think it would help sales a lot. The only other problem with GM is they will have to keep it affordable to compete with the Mustang, and we all know GM is not very good at that.

 

mostly the internet(ls1tech, gminsidenews, others) and magazines(CHP, GMHTP, super chevy, others)

I hope they make it like the C6, a new look but with some heritage design bits.

I think the new camaro will be slightly more than a mustang. It will be just like before, made with off the shelf items. re/de-tuned motor, 4 or 5 speed auto 6-speed manual, of the shelf rear end that will be live axle to keep cost down

 

id say its gonna get live axel for the dragsters

 

i dont, straight axles are not gonna be used much more, more ooh's and ahh's from the crowd with IRS.

 

IRS is ghey, gimme a Camaro the way it's supposed to be.

And get rid of those wannabe C5 tailights too, IMHO the PHR concept rearend was nicer,

 

imho pbr wtf omg tgo

 

true but ooh's and ahh's=more coin

 

i hope it stays solid axle rear

the slight gains in ground contact isn't enough to offset everything else for me

interchangability
pricing
established (and much cheaper) aftermarket
dependability (solid rears take more abuse, period)

not to mention it's how they've done good old american style musclecars since the beginning (not a real reason to keep it, but a prideful tidbit none the less)

it's a Camaro damnit

I want a 350
A manual trans with no computer provisions
A solid rear w/LCA's
And T-Tops

I will however... Bite the bullet and accept coilover suspension, a 6.0 litre motor, and something besides C-Clips to hold my axles on

 

u want a 350? screw that, i want a 6 liter.

 

Ya I am sure Chevy will choose the cheap route to keep costs down, and in a way they need to if they want to compete with the Mustang and take back some market share. I say solid axle and 350 like the good old days as well, plus aftermarket parts are cheaper for that setup. However I am pro coilover for the suspension. I plan to convert mine some time in the future.

 

i want a solid rear, with a 6litre ls2

all alum motor, easy engine access, and beefy suspension i dont want any less than .95 latteral acceleration and no more than .34 co efficent drag must be aerodynamic, and can handle.

 

easy access engine bays are a no more

 

I actually want a 350 also, after all the 350 was designed for the camaro

 

Sadly a cramped engine bay can be expected in all cars built for the rest of time.

 

I agree, and that's why I will always have my thirdgen around, or some kind of old car that isn't all cramped up.

 

what r u talking about your car is cluttered as ****.

 

Shut up bish, some day soon I will be swaping to tpi and will clean it all up. Stop talking trash bish or I am going to cross-fire you, lol.

 

your engine bay will never look as clean as my own.

 

That's because mine is legal and yours is not, owned bish!

 

ya you sure did just own yourself.

 

http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/01/...amaro-concept/
The interior is disgusting

 

I'd hit it.

 

I wouldn't. I agree with Steve, it sucks, but it wouldn't stop me from actually buying the car. Besides, we all know it won't actually look like that when it goes on sale in 09. I am sure the outside and the interior will look different, that's why they call it a concept, plus GM is famous for changing stuff, although I hope they stick to the outside design as much as possible.

 

It's funny it seems like everyone's impression of the car is that the interior is bad looking and the exterior is great.

I think the exact opposite, if anything needs to be changed in my mind it's the outer design of the car, I think the interior is pretty damn unique and looks very good to me.

that just goes to show you everone has their own opinion but each to his/her own opinion.