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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Smog Check

Rocklin Automotive is proud to announce that we are now an Official Smog Check Station. Now that this goal has been executed, we're moving along to make more plan towards dyno tuning. We will be installing anchors to the floor. Anchors should be installed by next week. We're awaiting for the call from the salesman for the dyno program.

Car show with dyno pulls is definitely within reach....

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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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put me on your list for first car to obliterate the dyno.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 02:23 AM
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think you can dyno a motorcycle?
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 10:11 AM
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Re: Smog Check

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put me on your list for first car to obliterate the dyno.
Sorry travis, i called first a long time ago LOL! I want my car to get dyno before you get on it...LOL
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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They can work out the kinks on your cars before they get to mine.
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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They can work out the kinks on your cars before they get to mine.
thats true!! Travis you can go first!
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Old Aug 1, 2008 | 10:28 PM
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Oh wow nobody wants to step up the plate first? It was supposed to be FREE but never mind that then .
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 12:13 AM
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ill take the Leap Of Faith
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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How much for a smog and how much for a "smog"?
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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by Darkshot
How much for a smog and how much for a "smog"?

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Originally Posted by TraviZ
put me on your list for first car to obliterate the dyno.
your car has to be the longest POS coming, when is that pile gonna be done so i can be the first one to chop it off

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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Re: Smog Check

I drive by your business almost everyday I need to stop by and check it out. My camaro is pass due on smog.

- Robby

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Old Aug 2, 2008 | 08:36 PM
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Re: Smog Check

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How much for a smog and how much for a "smog"?
We like to stay in business so there's no price for the "smog" and I like my wage now. I don't want to lose my license and back to lube tech. hahaha wait a minute I am a Senior Lube Tech.
Originally Posted by JesasaurusRex

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your car has to be the longest POS coming, when is that pile gonna be done so i can be the first one to chop it off
That crossed my mind too quite a few times.

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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 11:17 AM
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Re: Smog Check

Smog prices for 3rdgen members are 39 + cert.

For a "smog" It'll run ya about $30,000, its called buy yer own smog machine.

BTW thats also about what the fine is for a "smog"
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Dang smog... Sorry but let me vent. I anticipated failing smog because of a bad CCC carb so I bought one for $350 on Ebay. Put it on and took it to the mechanic so he could adjust it with his exhaust gas analyzer. Fails miserably, and goes down as a gross polluter. Adjusts it, gets it close but finds that it needs a TPS and fuel mixture solenoid. Trys it again and gets even worse. Figures it's the air control valve. No big deal right? Small little piece of plastic with two solenoids...$600.00 from the dealer. I found one through my NAPA dealer for $400.00 I'm going to have $1100 into a smog test before I even get the certificate. Thougth I'd share that. Misery loves company...
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Old Aug 3, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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I'll pass on the smog, but keep me posted for a Dyno-Fun-Day.

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P.S. - Watch the swearing fellas, posts edited above.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:12 AM
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by 1TUF92Z
Rocklin Automotive is proud to announce that we are now an Official Smog Check Station.

Bennie C.
Rocklin Automotive, Inc
6800 Five Star Blvd
Rocklin, CA 95677
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Can you also do "Test Only"? Thanks

James
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Dang smog... Sorry but let me vent. I anticipated failing smog because of a bad CCC carb so I bought one for $350 on Ebay. Put it on and took it to the mechanic so he could adjust it with his exhaust gas analyzer. Fails miserably, and goes down as a gross polluter. Adjusts it, gets it close but finds that it needs a TPS and fuel mixture solenoid. Trys it again and gets even worse. Figures it's the air control valve. No big deal right? Small little piece of plastic with two solenoids...$600.00 from the dealer. I found one through my NAPA dealer for $400.00 I'm going to have $1100 into a smog test before I even get the certificate. Thougth I'd share that. Misery loves company...
I have to say with 230k+ on my IROC's 20 year old original powertrain, I expected to fail, but I passed legally. And I burn 1 quart of oil between oil changes. The cat was newer and I took it in on the warm side and left it running until they pulled it in. Sorry to hear about your smog trouble. To bad the 20 year smog exemption doesn't apply. My car just turned 20!
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Smog Check

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I have to say with 230k+ on my IROC's 20 year old original powertrain, I expected to fail, but I passed legally. And I burn 1 quart of oil between oil changes. The cat was newer and I took it in on the warm side and left it running until they pulled it in. Sorry to hear about your smog trouble. To bad the 20 year smog exemption doesn't apply. My car just turned 20!
That's good news. Do you give a lot of the credit for passing to the newer cat?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Are there an plans to make it a 20 or even a 25 year exemption? That wuld be awsome for me. Then I won't have to keep these damn Alaska plates on the car.LOL
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 02:46 PM
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Re: Smog Check

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Are there an plans to make it a 20 or even a 25 year exemption? That wuld be awsome for me. Then I won't have to keep these damn Alaska plates on the car.LOL
If you're talking about a smog exemption in Ca. for older cars? There is, the number is 1975 and under.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:21 PM
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Re: Smog Check

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Can you also do "Test Only"? Thanks

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nope, they fix cars. so tha makes them a test and repair.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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If you're talking about a smog exemption in Ca. for older cars? There is, the number is 1975 and under.
Yeah I knew that I just thought I heard that there was some talk about extending it to cars older than 25 years, but I guess not.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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Yeah I knew that I just thought I heard that there was some talk about extending it to cars older than 25 years, but I guess not.
Well, if they're talking it ain't about going early, it'll be about going to later years...Especially if the bunch I'm thinking about gets elected next week...
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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I think if the bunch you are thinking about getting elected does, we might be seeing large cash incentives for any car older than 15 years being crushed. They have tried that before and it didn't fly, hopefully it won't again.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kairles
nope, they fix cars. so tha makes them a test and repair.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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I think if the bunch you are thinking about getting elected does, we might be seeing large cash incentives for any car older than 15 years being crushed. They have tried that before and it didn't fly, hopefully it won't again.
My car was reported as a gross polluter a few years back. I get the DMV mailing stating that they'll give me $500 for the car. I have a 90 sable that isn't worth a damn that I couldn't sell for that much. I think I'll invest $40 in a smog test that I'll make sure my car can't pass and see if the state will pay me $500.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:26 AM
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My car was reported as a gross polluter a few years back. I get the DMV mailing stating that they'll give me $500 for the car. I have a 90 sable that isn't worth a damn that I couldn't sell for that much. I think I'll invest $40 in a smog test that I'll make sure my car can't pass and see if the state will pay me $500.
You've got the right idea. The state will pay up to $1,000.00 to voluntarily retire a failed smog car, but one requirement is that you are the registered owner. Sometimes the links don't work so here's the info:

If your vehicle has FAILED its most recently required Smog Check your vehicle may be eligible for the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) vehicle retirement program. For more information on BAR's Consumer Assistance Program check BAR's web page or call 1-800-952-5210.

I forgot to say that we got $1,000.00 for my wife's 1991 Toyota Tercel. It was a gross polluter and just like your situation.

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 12:52 AM
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While the general idea of getting rid of a lot of the broke down pieces of crap on the road today is really appealing, i am just paranoid, I guess, of what this may imply towards our beloved hobby/lifestyles. Done right we could all benifit greatly from the change such as more cars in junkyards and pick and pulls. But I fear, as with many other issues, it will be done wrong and result in many painful automotive losses along with the cleanup. Just the perspective of an old-school gearhead obsessed with junkyards and fast cars.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 02:52 AM
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I have my car registered in Alaska right now and there is a waiver program here. If you car can't pass smog you can pay for a 10 dollar sticker and agree to only drive your car between April and November. Which with all the snow, ice,sand and gravel, is the only time people making serious power care to drive anyhow. You can get the sticker regardless of year make or model. I now somehting like that would never fly in CA...too bad.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 03:18 AM
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That is awesome! I wish they did have something like that here. With the snow and road salts and cinder rocks during those off months, I rarely ever drive in those months either. I would just shut them down for winter projects every year. Ca. does have historic vehicle tags which make you smog exempt, but I think they limit mileage to 1000 miles a year with a hefty overage fee, or something like that. I will get in touch with some friends that work DMV and see what is really out there for Ca., now I am curious.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by webeeZ28
That's good news. Do you give a lot of the credit for passing to the newer cat?
I'd say that there are a number of things I do to ensure a good test. Normal maintanence is key. If your car needs the basics(plugs, wires, themostat, etc.) replace them as needed. I only run Chevron Supreme w/Techroline as a rule. I had a proper tune done when I did my "bolt ons" along with the newer o2 sensor and cat. I also run the "Pass or don't pay" stuff through my car before I go to test. As mentioned before, get the cat good and hot before you test. Just my .02
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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Let's just hope that Cali dosn't attempt to copy one of England's major cities. since they couldn't kill off hot rods with emissions, the new law is to charge higher fuel consuming vehicles, get this: $50 bucks a day tax. Yep, anyone who has an SUV or a gas-guzzler vehicle will pay thousands of dollars a year as an enviromental penalty of ownership. I'll have to go back and find the article so I can remember what city is sponsoring this issue.

Have any of you tried to encourage your engine to pass smog by running 'Sea-Foam' directly into your intake through a vaccuum line???
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by neagan
Let's just hope that Cali dosn't attempt to copy one of England's major cities. since they couldn't kill off hot rods with emissions, the new law is to charge higher fuel consuming vehicles, get this: $50 bucks a day tax. Yep, anyone who has an SUV or a gas-guzzler vehicle will pay thousands of dollars a year as an enviromental penalty of ownership. I'll have to go back and find the article so I can remember what city is sponsoring this issue.

Have any of you tried to encourage your engine to pass smog by running 'Sea-Foam' directly into your intake through a vaccuum line???
Nitro-Nicky

(p.s.~ Daniel, I just sent you a private e-message)
It's not the whole of England, It's if you're going to drive your SUV type vehicle in London. It really has nothing to do with the enviroment or saving gas etc... It's a money maker for the city. Because everything is nationalized, (goverment controlled) London wants to get in on the action.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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That sounds just like the article I read about a couple months ago. But $50 bucks a day.... Wow!!!
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:23 PM
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Re: Smog Check

go to clean pipes off fulton ave james for test only

great guys when bennie and i ran SMOG D we used to send all the test onlys to him.

tell them to do a preheat on the cat too or "dry off the tires" haha not illegal just helps it along
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by webeeZ28
You've got the right idea. The state will pay up to $1,000.00 to voluntarily retire a failed smog car, but one requirement is that you are the registered owner. Sometimes the links don't work so here's the info:

If your vehicle has FAILED its most recently required Smog Check your vehicle may be eligible for the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) vehicle retirement program. For more information on BAR's Consumer Assistance Program check BAR's web page or call 1-800-952-5210.

I forgot to say that we got $1,000.00 for my wife's 1991 Toyota Tercel. It was a gross polluter and just like your situation.
State is out of funds. If your vehicle failed smog, you can junk/retire your car but State will not give you a penny. Even the Referee is currently closed.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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yah, the states pocket is pretty bare, the local ref is still open 1 day a week.each week there is a line of ricers with ref tickets.
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Re: Smog Check

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State is out of funds. If your vehicle failed smog, you can junk/retire your car but State will not give you a penny. Even the Referee is currently closed.
Nope, I checked the CARB web site yesterday (10/24/08), they say everything is back up. From their web site:

"Effective immediately, CAP Repair Assistance and Vehicle Retirement service contracts, as well as the Referee contract, have been reinstated. Today, October 6, 2008, services provided under the CAP contracts may resume. Consumers can contact CAP at (866) 272-9642.

The Referee Scheduling Center will be open on Wednesday, October 8, 2008, to begin scheduling appointments. Consumers can contact the Referee at (800) 622-7733."
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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Re: Smog Check

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Yeah I knew that I just thought I heard that there was some talk about extending it to cars older than 25 years, but I guess not.
It USED to be a rolling 30 year exemption, so in 2008, all cars made in 1978 or older would not have to be smogged.

But thanks to Governor Arnold, he signed the law in 2005 that stopped the exemption at cars made in 1975 or older.

Me --> <-- Arnold and the tree-huggers.
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 06:07 PM
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Re: Smog Check

Originally Posted by Kevin91Z
It USED to be a rolling 30 year exemption, so in 2008, all cars made in 1978 or older would not have to be smogged.

But thanks to Governor Arnold, he signed the law in 2005 that stopped the exemption at cars made in 1975 or older.

Me --> <-- Arnold and the tree-huggers.
Hmmmm, You sure that was Arnold? I bought my Z28 before 2005 and I thought that law was already in effect.. I Could be easily be wrong though.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 10:29 AM
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Yes I'm sure it was Arnold, I followed that bill pretty closely. Jay Leno is a friend of Arnold's and Jay told him to veto it, but he signed it anyway. It was in 2005 because 30 years back is 1975 and that's the cutoff point for the exemption.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 04:51 AM
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I don't think it was a rolling exemption because when I began modifying my first car (1962 Falcon-it was "cheap" and I was broke) back in 1996 a friend of mine who ran a classic car dealership suggested that I check out Ca smog laws before I got too crazy. So I did and at that time in July of 1996 the cutoff year was 1973, anything newer had to follow the smog laws relative to the year the car was manufactured. It stayed consistant at 1973 until that bill was signed by Arnold in 2005, when it was changed to 1975. Also in 1998 i purchased a 1973 Chevy 1/2 ton p/u and DMV did not require a smog (living in Orange County, Ca. at the time). If it was a rolling 30 year exemption the cutoff year would have been 1968 and I would have been screwed, that thing had a VERY hot 454 in it.

I agree about Arnold though,
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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Yes it was a rolling 30-year exemption starting in 2003, so '73 and older was exempt. In 2004 it became '74 and older, and in 2005 it became '75 and older. Then Arnold signed the bill that stopped the exemptions at '75 and older.
Do an internet search for "rolling 30 year exemption" .
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Old Nov 5, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Well, that explains how it got from 1973 to 1975, between 2003 and 2005 I was going through a lot of personal things (i.e. getting married, building a house, and beginning a new major career path), so my car hobby had to take a back seat for a while. All I know is that when the cars went into the garage in early 2003 the smog age was 1973, as it has been since I began back in 1996. When I started again in 2005 I had just heard about Arnolds new bill. I had heard rumors about the rolling exemption, but no smog stations could confirm or deny it. Not like it really matters anyway, both of my cars are required to be smogged, the cut-off year is 1975. end of story.
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