hey.
i was jst wodering if any1 had info on camaro vs. firebird? if you have any timings or just information, id like to see it. this can be from any generation also.
thanks
-92RS

 

i read somewhere that the camaro is faster because it weighs less

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Steve
88 Firebird TBI,TH700R4 - Open Element, Cat Delete, K&N filter 14*4 element
1/4: 16.1@85.7

 

Differences are negligible as far as power numbers go. T/A's and Z/28's are always a touch heavier because they're usually optioned a bit better and have GFX, but this is made up for with the fact that Z's and T/A's have lighter wheels and better brakes (as a rule).

T/A vs. Z/28, usually sees the Z28 as the winner, due to *slightly* better power/weight ratios.

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Matt86Z
~Check out my Thirdgen~
...This Ain't No Speedway!...

 

Yes the weight makes them faster and the TPI Camaros have a better air intake design that makes them faster also.

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Looking For:

87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI
The car I want.

84 TRANS AM 305 H.O.
Another car that would be OK to own while I still look for the IROC-Z!!

 

Check out my site. I have performance times posted from magazines.

members.v3space.com/thirdgen/index.htm
(its under the performance section)

 

Uh, wrong. At least from what I've read. Everything I've EVER read on thirdgen Camaros vs. Firebirds the, TA wins. This is due to the aerodynamic drag that results after about 45MPH, where the TA begins to catch up on the early jump the Camaro's get.

Don't flame me, I'm just stating that every article I've read says this.

 

85 IROC-Z. LB9 215hp 4-A 3.23 1/4mile 15.2@91
85 TransAm LB9 210hp 4-A 3.23 1/4mile 15.3@90
87 IROC-Z. L98 225hp 4-A 3.27 1/4mile 14.5@95
87 Formula L98 210hp 4-A 3.27 1/4mile 14.7@94
89 IROC-Z. LB9 230hp 5-M 3.45 1/4mile 14.6@95
89 Formula LB9 225hp 5-M 3.45 1/4mile 14.6@95
91 Z28 L98 4-A 245hp 3.23 1/4mile 14.3@97
91 GTA L98 4-A 240hp 3.23 1/4mile 14.4@97

The cars are so close stock(except perhaps in 87)it depends more on prooduction tolerances(a fully loaded strong GTA could be faster then a stripped weak IROC) and options. (A fully loaded IROC 5.7 with leather and T's should not be faster then a stripped Formula 350),also the Firebirds have slightly better aerodymamics,and usually equal or excede the Camaro in MPH,the but yeah on the average you could say that a Camaro because of its better intake and usually lighter weight then a T/A,GTA(they are not usually lighter then the Formulas though)is the slightly faster (.1-.3)of the 2 when stock.


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1990 Trans Am GTA,Black/Black Leather,350,auto 3.23,Dual Cats,
SLP Package,SLP Torque Converter/Shift Kit,Fastchip,GSC's
G-tech 0-60 5.1 1/4mile 13.6@104
member www.transamgta.com
Previous Thirdgen
1986 Camaro IROC-Z

 

The TA or GTA wasn't ever faster than an IROC-Z, they have more HP, TQ, and not as much weight.


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Looking For:

87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI
The car I want.

84 TRANS AM 305 H.O.
Another car that would be OK to own while I still look for the IROC-Z!!

[This message has been edited by IROCZTWENTYGR8 (edited March 27, 2001).]

 

I'd have to say most third gen Camaro's are a touch faster from what I've read. I'd also have to mention that most 4th gen T/A's are faster than the 4th gen Camaro's....... neither is a big enough difference to REALLY notice while driving. In my opinion, of course.

Barry Izold
89 T/A, GTA
Modified 350/T-5

 

Guess that goes to show, DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ. Sorry guys, later.

 

my friend had a 94 z28 and raced a 2000 ws6 the camaro had him off the line but the t/a cought up along side of the camaro but could not pass him.

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scott

 

The LS1 couldn't beat the LT1? Either Z was modded, or the driver of the WS6 was crappy. The Ws6 shoulda eaten the z for lunch. I just watched a 2000 WS6 tear up a 2000 Z28 Saturday night also. They both let up at 150 though.

 

Nothing short of driver error would let a stock LT1 take a stock LS1 (assuming same trannys, and I'm not so sure a auto LS1 couldn't take a 6spd LT1 either). I've ridden along on several LS1 vs LT1 runs (same tranny in both) and there is no comparision really. Pretty big difference...

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Ray87Z
-Vortec headed 350.
86 IROC w/ a cammed 305 TPI.
Formerly Ray86IROC.
www.inter-scape.com/Ray

[This message has been edited by Ray87Z (edited March 29, 2001).]

 

Whichever wins, its a beautiful sight.

 

I just wish I'd have had my video camera, it really was beautiful.

 

Having owned a couple LT1 cars and an LS1 car, let me say that there is quite a difference. All were 6 speeds. My '97 Z28 ran 13.88@101 stock. It made 278 rwhp/303 rwtq with a K&N FIPK (cold air) and a FlowMaster American Thunder cat back. My '98 ran 13.36@106 stock and made 316 rwhp/330rwtq with a SLP 2OTL cat back and Whisper lid. Some say the LT1 makes more torque down low, well it does below 2000 rpm. Even then we are talking less than 20 ft/lb. When racing how much time do you spend below 2K? Anyway, to answer the original question, the two cars are so close in performance that neither is always faster than the other, based on like years/options. Production tolerances offer more variation here than anything else besides the driver. Stock for stock and everything else being equal, an LS1 A4 will always beat a LT1 M6.

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87 Formula 350 13.94@96.67
98 Z28 1LE 13.15@107.59
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