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Old May 24, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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oil pressure with blower motor

The oil pressure was at 30 on the cam break-in. But, once i restarted the motor, the pressure with 10w-30 was only at about 8-10lbs, on idle. But that was a rough idle. I have a electronic stock gauge. I want to change the sender and get a mechanical gauge. However, it did jump up to 30 lbs whenever i brought the rpm's up to about 2,000 rpms. I know it never went that low in the past, I don't know if its just the sender or if I have a problem. The oil pump only had about 1,000 miles on it, so i took it apart, and inspected it....that's why I re-used it in the new motor. It was an expensive one, and it worked fine when the pistons broke, (even after they broke).
anyway, I am using a PH-5 oil filter, which I've heard may have sometype of check valve in it....could that be the problem? BTW< the oil presure is good till the block heats up all the way. any suggestions.? -J
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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I would get a mechanical gauge on there before we jump to conclusions. I wouldn't run it at all until you do. Did you check ALL your clearances before you put the motor together?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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well, i checked all the ones i knew to check, liek the journal to rod bearing....etc,...what ones may i have missed.? Also, I was told alot of motors run that low at idle....so i have been running it a little, just to start it atleast..but yeah, i gotta get a gauge on there.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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With even a decent oil pump I wouldnt think you would be seeing any less than 20psi at idle once it is fully warmed up. By all clearances I just meant did you check all your mains and all your rods, as opposed to checking one of each and assuming everything else was the same.

I havent heard of many small block Chevys that made that little oil pressure and lived. Pontiac motors are another story, I have heard it is common for them having close to 0 psi at idle.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:24 PM
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well thats right that the hotter the motor gets- the oil pressure should drop. but it shouldnt be lower than 20#. hook up a reliable mechanical oil pressure guage. the stock electronic guages are horribly inaccurate.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 11:33 PM
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yeah i will.....any mechanical gauge you reccomend in particular? Also,..could it be the front galley plugs or the rear main plug under the cap that I have been hearing about? if so, would I still get pressure at all? I get 15-35lbs cold. thanks -J
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Old May 25, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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i use a Kentmore J tool to verify oil pressure, if your getting a mechanical guage just to verify the pressure go buy a sunpro for like 20$ and keep it as a tool- if your going with permanent gauges- cant go wrong with electronic autometers
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Old May 26, 2005 | 03:38 AM
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well the good news is,....i started at 8p and it is now 4:30 am...I diagnosed it right and it was the gallley plugs..the motor sounds good and I am building good oil pressure,..however, I am afraind I already did damage with low oil pressure when I did the cam break-in, and I took it for a 2 mile easy ride. Also....I started it twice to warm it up to check the pressure with a new sender and gauge...l I HOPE ther is minimal or no damage,...but it would be my luck that this thing breaks next week cause of the missing galley plugs.... what do you guys think... i could use some good news....but tell me the truth.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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Don't freak out. If you weren't beating on the motor it takes very little oil pressure to keep things running smoothly. The cam is not the main concern- it's lubrication comes mostly from "splash oiling" from the spinning crank. If you don't have a "death rattle" in the bottom end or valvetrain you probably won't have any long-lasting effects from the incident.

Once you're satisfied that you have fixed the problem change the oil/filter one more time (look for metal in the oil filter- small amount is acceptable, lots indicates real problems), warm it up again and then go out and beat on it a while. If it's going to break it's better that it does it sooner than later- and closer to your house!
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Old May 26, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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i concur! thanks man.....
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